Rug Burn Junky on 3/8/2006 at 23:06
Quote Posted by RyushiBlade
Most of the movie was also plotless, revolving around people talking to eachother and cracking jokes
Lemme take a wild guess... you didn't see Clerks
I, did you?
lurker618 on 4/8/2006 at 00:07
Quote Posted by RyushiBlade
I didn't care one bit about the characters (I was, in fact, hoping atleast one of them would die or commit suicide. That would have made me laugh, if only for the irony of it.)
Clerks 1 DVD spoiler... [SPOILER]Dante was killed during a robbery in the original ending of "Clerks." Interesting idea, but Kevin Smith had it first.[/SPOILER] Of course that scene was removed because the movie was a comedy (fun!). Yeah, it made a statement, but it doesn't really fit. It's "Clerks" not "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest."
RyushiBlade on 4/8/2006 at 00:50
I didn't see the first, I admit. I still consider it irrelevent (please, I beseech thee; do not refute me for I speak only from my heart); an excuse for not having a plot should not be 'Well, you should have seen the first movie.' Perhaps I'm taking too narrow a look on it, but the plot (MAJOR SPOILERS, please don't read unless you've seen it...) from what I saw was:
[SPOILER]A convenience store burns down, forcing the manager and some other guy to work at a fast food restaurant. The manager is marrying a woman, discovers he loves another and also happens to be the father of the second woman's upcoming baby. He then decides to marry the second woman and reopen the store with his friend.[/SPOILER]
There's... just nothing there for me. It's not in the slightest way complex, it wasn't at all entertaining for me, there were no real big twists. In the end, Clerks II was just not my kind of movie.
Scots Taffer on 4/8/2006 at 01:02
Well, the plot of Clerks 1 was:
Dante "wasn't even supposed to be here today". He gets asked in to work on his day off, he goes, a smoking-gum salesman starts a small riot about cigarettes as an ad-campaign, Dante argues with his girlfriend about sleeping versus cock-sucking, he spends lots of time shooting the shit with Randall about movies and porn and his infatuation with his ex, they play hockey on the roof of the store and go to a funeral, Randall sells a kid some cigarettes, Dante later gets nailed for it, Dante's ex shows up, they arrange a date, she ends up fucking a dead guy in the toilet, the end.
It's not a plot, really, just a sequence of events. What makes it a good movie is the way the events unfold and the dialogue wrapped around them and the way the characters interact.
Carini on 4/8/2006 at 13:51
RyushiBlade
Date of Birth:
March 13, 1989
Age:
17
No offence, but this movie wasn't made for you, man. I think you would have had more fun in John Tucker Must Die.
Vigil on 4/8/2006 at 15:15
Just like Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back wasn't, like, made for the critics, man.
Right?
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TheGreatGodPan on 4/8/2006 at 17:34
I saw it a few days ago. It wasn't especially good, wasn't especially bad. Some really funny parts, the plot could have been left out without any harm to the movie.
Pyrian on 4/8/2006 at 20:55
I think RBJ's point was that if you were at all familiar with the first movie you wouldn't have gone into the second movie expecting a strong plot - or any plot at all. Clerks II really has much more of a plot than the first one: Clerks could be fairly described as simply not having a plot; certainly it makes more sense that way.
Turtle on 4/8/2006 at 23:53
The entire point of Clerks II is to find out what happened to the characters from Clerks in the last 10 years.
If you have not seen Clerks, you're a retard for thinking it was a good idea to see Clerks II.
It's like going to the Olive Garden and listening to the old friends at the next table catch up with each others lives.
You don't know them, so why the fuck would you care what's happened to them?
Pyrian on 5/8/2006 at 00:01
Who cares what happened to the clerks from Clerks? I still think of the main character as having gotten shot. I went to Clerks II just to laugh at stupid gags - and I was not disappointed.