Dia on 27/8/2011 at 13:07
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Sad to hear it didn't work out. Clear sky is a cruel, brutal and retarded mistress. Yet it has its rewards - the set pieces are to die for.
I woke up this a.m. & opened this thread half-expecting to be called 'wuss' and/or 'candy-ass', so your response was like a breath of fresh air! I quit last night out of frustration (& being over-tired), but either I'm very determined to beat this game or I have a nasty OCD. ;)
I checked out the tweakguides and will have to implement some minor changes. I'm running CS on an older PC (still haven't ordered my new one), so that in itself could lend to bugs & glitches. I've downloaded & installed the SRP mod & will let you know how that works (or if it works, considering that the other three patches I installed gave me an fps of about 1).
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The scripts get stuck. Are you talking about the path from Cordon to Garbage? The Loner faction only want to clear that path. Their ambitions end there. they won't take out the bandit camp. I think only duty will do that if you join them (Freedom definitely don't).
There are two points you're supposed to guard; the main path leading to Cordon and the path thru the tunnel to Cordon. Kinda hard to be in 2 places at once, but it didn't matter since nobody came to my rescue, so I left after freeing the Stalker hostages at the vehicle graveyard. I think I'll just stick to the SRP mod for now (if it works) since I've had serious issues with the other official patches I installed (afterwhich I had to re-install the whole game).
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You get the stuff back - some bandits stash it nearby and you get a quest to get it back. Sorry if that spoilt it for you but it sounds like you're past caring anyway. :P The item dropping glitch sounds like a bug. never happened for me. You need to be fully patched and using the reclamation pack at the very least if you want to play this again. Protip spend all your money before the bandits rob you.
Thanks for the spoiler Vernon - seriously! You're right, at this point I'd rather know a little more of what's going to happen than to keep wandering aimlessly. I'm going to try to stash my more necessary weapons, ammo, etc. in either an available footlocker or in the inventory of some of the dead bodies lying around the Flea Market. Cheating? Like you said, at this point I'm beyond caring! :P
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Did you go underground? It should be okay. I got the quest from the Duty leader, iirc. He had some other agenda ofc, but helps you get underground
I only made it as far as Duty Hdqtrs. in Agroprom the 2nd time I tried to play, then the game crashed & wouldn't load again, so had to re-install & start from scratch.
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Seriously just ignore this shit. The stalkers always respawn and you won't lose
anything by ignoring them
Just before my last crash last night I'd decided to do just that; that's when I started trying to drop my inventory & the game crashed. I remember reading about this specific glitch; I think it was on the GSC forums.
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If you want to retry at any point, hit this thread up or say something on my visitor page. I don't blame you for quitting, but there are ways around. Heaven knows I have struggled to find them.
I only just got past Limansk and I am 53 hours in. No shit. At least that's what Steam says but you have to shave off a lot of that since I accidentally left the game running for a day. Still, it took a long, long time to figure out how to finish the Freedom questline to get the exoskeleton and epic roubles.
I'm a masochist and this game catered for that in spades. If you are willing to give it another go, I would say it is worth it just for the main quest. Hell, install Complete and give that a go. Everyone makes out that it roxors the soxors and fixes third-world malnutririon so why not give that a whirl next time.
Thanks again, Vernon. I'm relieved to hear that I'm not being a big fat cry-baby about this game and that it
is a serious bitch. I'm no masochist, but I'm still determined to do my best in order to continue playing this beast.
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Also if you replay it, don't shoot bandits (different from renegades) or you can't access their technician.
ermmmm .... they usually don't give me much choice. ;) It seems to always come down to them or me.
On a side note: I was literally laughing out loud while at the Freedom main base listening to the verbal sparring between Ashot and Yar on the loudspeaker!!! I wish the devs would've included more of this since it seems to stop after you've completed a couple of missions for Freedom. The dialog in CS seems to be a tad more interesting than in SoC & CoP.
Thanks again guys! I'll let you know if SRP works. Keep your fingers crossed!
P.S. Another minor complaint I have is that you don't have the option to 'sleep' in CS. I really, really
hate wandering around the Zone at night! ;)
Dia on 27/8/2011 at 15:27
Update: Installed SRP and now the game won't even start. I get the initial menu, click on play, get the very first small startup screen, then a small info box flashes onscreen so fast I can't read it, then nothing.
Looks like another uninstall/re-install. :(
This game is the anti-christ.
Vernon on 27/8/2011 at 16:28
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This game is the anti-christ.
Yep it really is hell. I just hit a massive bug at the npp but we'll cross that bridge if and when you come to it.
I think you will need all the patches. Also might sound obvious but you will probably have to delete the gamedata folder before reinstall (probably the whole cs folder to be sure). I don't get your problem with patching. What are your pc specs? What specific issues did you get with the patches? I am playing the straight steam version with srp and the pistol ironsights mod. That is all. you might consider the complete mod but that thing no doubt introduces a whole new bunch of issues.
GOD DAMN YOU GSC. Ugh. I read that the ai scripts are really poorly optimised. I have an i7 2600 with an overclocked custom-cooled radeon 4870 and this game still wanted more. D*nno what your setup is but you are probs gonna have to throw something vaguely decent at it. They put DX 10.1 into this and everything. I can run crysis almost maxed out so what gives. the tweak guuide helps a lot anyway. Anyway, keep on keeping on I will do what I can to help you kick this game to the kerb. ZONE SOLIDARITY 4 LYFE
Vernon on 27/8/2011 at 16:51
two more things. Ashot and Yar was hilarious. Also your savegame will be good for nohing after installing srp (probably)
And btw Muz, I am in complete agreeance abouut the fun you can eke out of the faction wars stuff, broken as it is
Dia on 27/8/2011 at 19:01
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I think you will need all the patches. Also might sound obvious but you will probably have to delete the gamedata folder before reinstall (probably the whole cs folder to be sure). I don't get your problem with patching. What are your pc specs? What specific issues did you get with the patches? I am playing the straight steam version with srp and the pistol ironsights mod. That is all. you might consider the complete mod but that thing no doubt introduces a whole new bunch of issues.
I already learned the
hard way that the whole 'Deep Silver' folder has to be deleted before a reinstall. ;) My old PC: an AMD Athlon 3200+, 2.20 GHz, 1.50GB; I have an NVIDIA GeForce 6200. (Told ya it was old!)
The problem I have with patches (even the earlier ones) is that the game bogs down and the framerate sinks to just about a frame per second - if that! The latest, SRP, wouldn't even let my game start, no matter what I did. I blame this on my antique system, basically. It might have something to do with the retail version (vs. 1.5.01), I really don't know. Anyhoo, I did another reinstall (with no patches) and the game's running just fine .... even though she really is a royal bitch of a game to begin with. Btw, I successfully transferred all of my gear, etc., to a couple nearby dead bodies' inventories and therefore had all my stuff waiting for me (sans rubles, of course) when the bandits were done with me. (Take
that you wench of a game!) :p
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Anyway, keep on keeping on I will do what I can to help you kick this game to the kerb. ZONE SOLIDARITY 4 LYFE
Thanks again, Vernon. :thumb: I'm taking a (much deserved) break right now before I go down into the Agroprom underground.
I've got a bad feeling about this .........
Vernon on 28/8/2011 at 01:50
I hit one bug down there where you run into an invisible wall (it will be obvious when and if it happens). You can get around it by jumping like crazy or going back and running at it again. It is weird but you can get past it lol
Muzman on 28/8/2011 at 02:12
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Hm I couldn't get the loners to do it and was told it was a known bug. Did you play using Complete? That may have fixed it.
Thing about Bandit tech is he is the only one who can upgrade SEVA suit all the way
Ahh yeah, they do have some pretty cool stuff, I seem to recall now (and luckily they don't really use it themselves). Too bad I've usually shot him in the face long before then. (I felt pretty bad too. I think he was the one who was actually polite, as bandits go).
But anyway, yeah I've taken the bandit base in vanilla. The stalkers hold it as well, managing to suppress any insurgencies by themselves. And then no more bandits (until Limansk bridge I think. As you'd expect).
It was annoying to do. You have to get them to cross in from Agroprom (that might be obvious. Can't remember), which at the time meant taking the Agroprom side camp from Duty, who were their friends and mine at the time.
Talk about awkward.
I was last trying to coax Duty into doing it when I was playing with Complete, but I couldn't manage it. They were content to occupy the nearby camps and then just massacre the bandits whenever they came out (hours of fun to watch). Bases seem to be faction specific goals and the bandit base is the Loners ultimate target. I was mainly hoping they'd change the radio station, but they don't, dammit all.
Vernon on 28/8/2011 at 03:35
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My old PC: an AMD Athlon 3200+, 2.20 GHz, 1.50GB; I have an NVIDIA GeForce 6200. (Told ya it was old!)
... but you have a new one on the way? How excitement! Have you already ordered it?
Also wow you are running unpatched. That's brave. Maybe the patches broke more than they fixed? Who knows
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You have to get them to cross in from Agroprom (that might be obvious. Can't remember), which at the time meant taking the Agroprom side camp from Duty, who were their friends and mine at the time.
Talk about awkward.
God dammit that is ridiculous. I didn't know the Agroprom loner base even had a patrol spawn. This game is like opening up the box in Schrodinger's cat gedanken. :eww:
