Koki on 11/1/2011 at 13:54
Quote Posted by 242
I believe it was intended.
That's because you're a fanboy.
Muzman on 12/1/2011 at 04:40
Quote Posted by Bakerman
No, that's true. I just feel it necessary.
Have some pity. They've generally only got pistols and shotguns and can't hit the broad side of a barn at ten paces. Unless you've got to go through them to get to a crossing point or something, just keep walking.
What's more fun is trying to join the bandits. Haven't quite managed it yet.
242 on 12/1/2011 at 11:55
Quote Posted by Koki
That's because you're a fanboy.
Oh Koki, FYI, I'm not interested in Stalker anymore. Hopelessly degraded to console games.
Bakerman on 12/1/2011 at 13:51
Quote Posted by Muzman
Have some pity.
The bastards took near on 10,000 ru from me when I first entered the Garbage... call me vindictive :p. I've actually found them to be quite a threat anywhere off that main road - although now the ones at the vehicle graveyard are gone for good it's a bit easier. But yes, the lack of decent loot is a good deterrent. Those ones in the Dark Valley, though - wow. The garage is still littered with scoped TRSes from that fight :p.
Koki on 12/1/2011 at 21:15
Quote Posted by 242
Oh Koki, FYI, I'm not interested in Stalker anymore. Hopelessly degraded to console games.
As if that's news.
Dia on 27/8/2011 at 04:48
I quit!!! I've been struggling to play Clear Sky (retail version) for the past week and this is the joy I've experienced with this damned game:
- After 3 re-installs I attempted to patch the game (using different patch versions each time) but the patches only served to bog down the game to the point where it was unplayable.
- Having the objectives to stand at designated points at the entryways to Garbage waiting for relief that never comes no matter how long you stand there (I was up to about an hour - I just let the game run while I did other stuff - nothing happened).
- Getting robbed (and probably raped) by the bandits in the underground room at the Flea Market afterwhich I had nothing but a pistol and little ammo. I tried dumping all my weapons, gear, and items before I went down to the room at the Flea Market thinking to come back & collect it all again so at least I'd have most of my stuff, but due to a glitch that I read about, the game freezes and crashes if you try to unload too much stuff, so you're still pretty much left with nothing and still have to try to make it thru the bandits to get to Agroprom with almost nothing but a smile.
- Losing the objective to go to Agroprom to find the Stalkers' stash (I haven't read ahead, so I realize this objective may return once I find a way underground?). It was frustrating though because said objective disappeared when I finally waded thru hordes of bandits and actually made it to Agroprom because I ran very, very fast only to realize that upon FINALLY reaching Agroprom (it took about five reloads) I had zero cash, one lousy pistol and about 3 bullets. It's a good thing there were a lot of dead guys lying about so I could loot their corpses.
- Upon reaching Agroprom, though I had the objective to go talk to Duty, it was impossible to do so since I had to repeatedly repel bandits and mutants from the Stalker base there.
- I completed all the missions that Freedom gave me, but they STILL wouldn't let me join.
- Even though I had 12958 ru., Sid wouldn't sell me the Berill-5M suit that cost 12500 - the game kept telling me I didn't have enough cash.
So yeah; I quit!
Afaic, this game is damn near unplayable!
My Gawd! This game makes SoC look like a walk in the park!!!
Rant over. Now I can go to bed.
Muzman on 27/8/2011 at 06:18
Sounds annoying indeed. I can't remember half of the circumstances for this stuff to help much. One thing is you probably do need all the patches. There is a point where something funny happens to the graphics and everything slows down, but it's actually fine if you're not using the latest drivers (at least, this was true of nvidia cards). I can't remember what version was appropriate but ...yeah, it would have been back a ways.
Never heard of that crash when you drop stuff, fortunately. Is it just when you drop it on the ground? What happens if you go stash it in a box in one of the nearby camps?
Clear sky also gives you a realistic fog of war sim in that you will get orders to await reinforcements or hold a position that are clearly insane or never actually eventuate. Best thing to do is use your discretion and bugger off and do something else sooner rather than later ;)
It really is pretty random when they'll come. If you don't see a squad head out from the base on the map after a few minutes, give up and go. You seem to need more than one camp in an area to be cleared to encourage any movement (and then it's usually the bandits who take off first).
Vernon on 27/8/2011 at 07:58
Sad to hear it didn't work out. Clear sky is a cruel, brutal and retarded mistress. Yet it has its rewards - the set pieces are to die for.
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- After 3 re-installs I attempted to patch the game (using different patch versions each time) but the patches only served to bog down the game to the point where it was unplayable.
For performance, I recommend (
http://www.tweakguides.com/ClearSky_5.html) this guide. It will help you configure the shader settings and stuff.
Also (
http://stalker.filefront.com/file/Sky_Reclamation_Project;103579) Sky Reclamation Project is essential. Bugfixes-only fan patch. Should be official.
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- Having the objectives to stand at designated points at the entryways to Garbage waiting for relief that never comes no matter how long you stand there (I was up to about an hour - I just let the game run while I did other stuff - nothing happened).
The scripts get stuck. Are you talking about the path from Cordon to Garbage? The Loner faction only want to clear that path. Their ambitions end there. they won't take out the bandit camp. I think only duty will do that if you join them (Freedom definitely don't).
You can get a mod to 'unstick' the scripts but with freedom, one way to jig them into working is by killing all the duty guys (they appear in the middle of the map too near the mine), then leaving the map and returning.
Factions are broken. If you join Freedom, you can use the quests for material gain alone. Every time you retake a point, you get a decent reward that can be spent on an exo/sniper rifle or whatever. Then hit the main quest if you can't take the Duty base
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- Getting robbed (and probably raped) by the bandits in the underground room at the Flea Market afterwhich I had nothing but a pistol and little ammo. I tried dumping all my weapons, gear, and items before I went down to the room at the Flea Market thinking to come back & collect it all again so at least I'd have most of my stuff, but due to a glitch that I read about, the game freezes and crashes if you try to unload too much stuff, so you're still pretty much left with nothing and still have to try to make it thru the bandits to get to Agroprom with almost nothing but a smile.
You get the stuff back - some bandits stash it nearby and you get a quest to get it back. Sorry if that spoilt it for you but it sounds like you're past caring anyway. :P The item dropping glitch sounds like a bug. never happened for me. You need to be fully patched and using the reclamation pack at the very least if you want to play this again. Protip spend all your money before the bandits rob you.
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- Losing the objective to go to Agroprom to find the Stalkers' stash (I haven't read ahead, so I realize this objective may return once I find a way underground?). It was frustrating though because said objective disappeared when I finally waded thru hordes of bandits and actually made it to Agroprom because I ran very, very fast only to realize that upon FINALLY reaching Agroprom (it took about five reloads) I had zero cash, one lousy pistol and about 3 bullets. It's a good thing there were a lot of dead guys lying about so I could loot their corpses.
Did you go underground? It should be okay. I got the quest from the Duty leader, iirc. He had some other agenda ofc, but helps you get underground
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- Upon reaching Agroprom, though I had the objective to go talk to Duty, it was impossible to do so since I had to repeatedly repel bandits and mutants from the Stalker base there.
Seriously just ignore this shit. The stalkers always respawn and you won't lose
anything by ignoring them
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- I completed all the missions that Freedom gave me, but they
STILL wouldn't let me join.
I finished the quest in Yantar before returning to join.
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- Even though I had 12958 ru., Sid wouldn't sell me the Berill-5M suit that cost 12500 - the game kept telling me I didn't have enough cash.
Yeah your game is broken.
If you want to retry at any point, hit this thread up or say something on my visitor page. I don't blame you for quitting, but there are ways around. Heaven knows I have struggled to find them.
I only just got past Limansk and I am 53 hours in. No shit. At least that's what Steam says but you have to shave off a lot of that since I accidentally left the game running for a day. Still, it took a long, long time to figure out how to finish the Freedom questline to get the exoskeleton and epic roubles.
I'm a masochist and this game catered for that in spades. If you are willing to give it another go, I would say it is worth it just for the main quest. Hell, install Complete and give that a go. Everyone makes out that it roxors the soxors and fixes third-world malnutririon so why not give that a whirl next time.
Also if you replay it, don't shoot bandits (different from renegades) or you can't access their technician.
Muzman on 27/8/2011 at 08:18
Quote Posted by Vernon
The Loner faction only want to clear that path. Their ambitions end there. they won't take out the bandit camp.
They will, for what it's worth. In fact they're the only faction I've managed to do it with.
Not that it really matters in the scheme of things.
Tooling around in the faction war is one of the more fun aspects (though Dia likely won't beleive it).
Doesn't the bandit's tech and shop still charge like wounded bulls (unless you do a job or two for them, and probably even after). I know they'll still mug you even if you are a friend. I kinda liked that part though. You're still a stranger in the ghetto, no matter what. No honour among thieves etc.
Vernon on 27/8/2011 at 09:23
Hm I couldn't get the loners to do it and was told it was a known bug. Did you play using Complete? That may have fixed it.
Thing about Bandit tech is he is the only one who can upgrade SEVA suit all the way
