jtr7 on 3/12/2007 at 07:18
Well, maybe 37637598 will ask a relevant question and you can weigh in and provide a measure of truth....
A shekel for your thoughts? Or, what is the exchange rate for a shekel, these days? Can I buy another bag of popcorn?
Aja on 3/12/2007 at 07:22
God, by definition, must be two things. He must be omnipotent, and he must be perfectly good.
But there is clearly much pain and suffering in the world. Therefore, God is either not omnipotent, not perfectly good, or not existent. And what would be the point in worshiping a god who wasn't good and all-powerful?
jtr7 on 3/12/2007 at 07:28
Cause you might go to Hell if you don't? :p Or in this case, if you don't accept what his son did for you.:sly:
Thirith on 3/12/2007 at 07:31
Aja: regardless of whether God exists or not, your logic is simplistic and not terribly convincing. Just because someone *can* do something does not mean he *will* do it. The best parent isn't necessarily the one who will keep his children from making bad choices or bad experiences.
It seems to me that Christianity vs. Atheism debates tend to bring out first-term philosophers. If the topic is worth taking seriously, it deserves more stringent, more intelligent debate. If it isn't worth taking seriously, then any debate (even of the facile "Can God make a rock that's too heavy for Him to lift?") is wasted on the issue, it would seem to me.
heretic on 3/12/2007 at 07:34
Quote Posted by Aja
God, by definition, must be two things. He must be omnipotent, and he must be perfectly good.
I understand the omnipotent part, but why perfectly good?
Why couldn't god
be the big picture...above any human concepts of good or evil and driven towards an inevitable ultimate goal that only 'god' understands?
SubJeff on 3/12/2007 at 07:48
God need be neither of these things. The Roman and Greek Gods weren't and aspects of God in both Hinduism and Buddism aren't. You could argue the JudeoChristian God is neither as well, not according to the standards of men.
Spaztick on 3/12/2007 at 07:53
Quote Posted by heretic1dg
I understand the omnipotent part, but why perfectly good?
Why couldn't god
be the big picture...above any human concepts of good or evil and driven towards an inevitable ultimate goal that only 'god' understands?
Yea, I was about to post that God is 'just,' meaning what He says goes. He defines what good and evil is.
Scots Taffer on 3/12/2007 at 08:14
Quote Posted by Vasquez
I'm not that religious, but this is beautiful :)
It also happens to be my personal philosophy on faith which has evolved over a long time of ponder, though that lighthouse is very, very distant at the moment.
kidmystik101 on 3/12/2007 at 10:23
Debate about god? Fuck yes, let's stir shit up a bit.
GOD DOESN'T EXIST, YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF RETARDS.
/flee
But in all seriousness, how can it ever be proven that god exists? That jesus existed? That heaven and hell exist? The thing is, it can't. Which is why i happen to be agnostic. There's too much science can explain, where the bible says "God did this and that, anything else is blasphemy and you're going to hell. Stfu." So we're supposed to believe that in 6 days god created mankind, the earth, all the stars and planets and plantlife and animals. Maybe it's like this is a giant game of the Sims, and there's a bunch of people in heaven controlling us:erm:
Supposing there is an afterlife, i wonder what'll happen to agnostics? I mean, they don't deny that god exists, yet they don't say he does. Purgatory?
PigLick on 3/12/2007 at 12:14
i had this amazing reply , but the internet swallowed it up
all I can say now is 2 girls 1 cup
