jtr7 on 3/12/2007 at 22:42
Once again...thanks!:thumb:
Scots Taffer on 3/12/2007 at 23:15
I find it oddly appropriate that in a discussion about the existence of God 2girls1cup crops up, because if there were ever irrefutable proof to the contrary that's it.
Scots Taffer on 3/12/2007 at 23:16
2girls1cup more like 1god100000threads
jtr7 on 3/12/2007 at 23:52
Well, many people do find it rather delicious to shit on God and those that claim to believe in one. Whenever there's a public discussion about religion, you can be sure there will be at least one party-pooper.
"There is no spoon." --The Keepers of the Balance
catbarf on 4/12/2007 at 00:00
Jenesis- his point was that suffering eternally in Hell is sadistic torment because there is no chance for the torment to have effect- i.e., there is no place in which that torment (or punishment) will be remembered. It's the same thing as life in prison- if they never get out, then they won't have a chance to actually benefit from the incarceration. The purpose of justice in this sense is to provide punishment so that when the person returns to the real world, they have 'learned their lesson' and won't commit the crime again.
On the topic of evolution: There's quite a bit of evidence for evolution, and the missing link is really the only major flaw in the design. From a conceptual standpoint, it makes perfect sense- the strong live, the weak die, and thus the strong reproduce while the weak don't.
What annoys me are the people who believe in evolution and yet follow the Bible. It's one or the other- you can't cherry-pick the bits of the Bible you like and stick with those. By that logic, I'll assume that all those bits about Hell don't exist and thus I can do whatever I like and still go to Heaven. That might be a problem.
By the way, great discussion. We've made it to page 5 without a shitfest.
Scots Taffer on 4/12/2007 at 00:09
Quote Posted by jtr7
Well, many people do find it rather delicious
to shit on God and those that claim to believe in one. Whenever there's a public discussion about religion, you can be sure there will be at least one party-pooper.
I hope you're not addressing me because apart from providing some levity to this thread, I've also contributed seriously.
Also, the bolded part of your phrase and
shitfest above following on from my posts is just too much. :laff:
jtr7 on 4/12/2007 at 00:11
Post inspired by, not personally directed at you, Scots. Sorry....:angel:
We traded a shit-feast for the typical shitfest, certainly.
And now I'm quite put off of popcorn, buttered.
jay pettitt on 4/12/2007 at 00:31
Quote Posted by catbarf
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Your second and third paragraphs are completely wrong. I didn't bother reading the other two.
When the hell did evolution become 'on topic'?
There isn't 'quite a bit' of evidence; there's a overwhelming body of evidence.
The 'missing link' a) isn't, b) wouldn't be a flaw, major or otherwise if it was and c) isn't the only major flaw (in the evidence, not the theory that is)
The concept of evolution by natural selection is not about strong and weak. It's about fitness; a concept of suitability, not body building. Humans being rather a good example of being physically weak but, given the right environment, very successful.
Of course it's possible to accept both evolution and the bible. Religion is dippy like that; no amount of science is going to stop people from finding gaps for gods to inhabit if that's what they want to do or live quite contentedly with the fact that the bible is sometimes a bit wayward.
While you're on the subject of ignoring bits of the bible, why not ignore the bits with heaven in for good measure?
jtr7 on 4/12/2007 at 00:39
Hey! Somebody's filched Fett's fan and bucket.:weird:
Quote:
I've got my fan plugged in and a huge bucket of shit on standby.
Story on page 5.
d0om on 4/12/2007 at 00:43
I really don't understand fundamentalist American Christians. Lets say the universe is billions of years old and happened exactly as current science understands it. Now lets say that God gives you a vision of how the universe was created and the Earth and life appearing on the Earth resulting in humans.
Now tell that to other people for a few hundred years before it gets written down.
Is what is written in the Bible consistent, or inconsistent with this?
Surely the fact that it seems roughly plausible should be used as an argument for God based on science, rather than some bizare attack at rational thought.
