SD on 19/10/2006 at 11:53
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Also, clarify your opinion on the issue please StD. Are you now saying that diet is THE important factor, or that it's one of a number of things?
You say that as if I've somehow altered my opinion, when it's remained exactly the same from the very beginning. Try re-reading this thread, particularly the bits where you ridiculed my stance.
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all the big thighed vegitarians I know are just... lollingly dumb
Perhaps people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?
TheGreatGodPan on 20/10/2006 at 01:52
Quote Posted by mopgoblin
I disagree. Utilitarianism might seem like a good approach to punishment when you're talking about deterring lesser crimes, but as you move up the scale, and the harm caused by the crime intensifies and affects more people, the set of "morally acceptable" deterrents will expand to include punishing and torturing the criminal's spouse/children/friends/pets, even if they didn't know about the crime. Unless you're happy with doing that, it does matter whether you're personally responsible for your actions.
I can't think of a situation in which torturing the spouse/children/friends/pets would be more effective than doing that to the offender themselves.