demagogue on 16/3/2023 at 05:23
I somehow feel like people getting antsy about the IP infringement of dAI don't fully appreciate the writing on the wall that the entire public-private distinction may be getting obliterated, and this next generation may grow up assuming that their daily life is completely in the public domain. Worrying about the public claiming ownership over this or that artwork or piece of text seems like it's raging against a few buckets of water out of an entire tsunami that's gonna come crashing down on not just on the culture but on human identity itself.
I don't know though. My most basic feeling is that trying to contain this part of it will be a loosing battle like trying to go to war against meme culture would be a lost cause. I'm not sure how far the implications go. We've maybe been conditioned by decades of scifi to expect the worst, or most extreme (maybe it's the best for some people?).
Sulphur on 16/3/2023 at 05:41
Well, you're going to have to regulate AI, obviously. That's the obvious next step. I assume something on the level of GDPR/DPA will have to be brought in as an initial sop, where a basic level of transparency as to what the data set is, across what timeframe, an index of everything that's being ingested by these neural networks, and you're going to need the right to ask for it to be deleted if you find your stuff in there. That's how you uphold basic copyrights as well as basic user privacy, as far as my thinking about this for 0.5 seconds goes.
This also means that we need Tim Berners-Lee's Web 3.0 more than the stupidity that is the cryptobronet and NFTs, because you can't enforce privacy without the internet being the sort of medium that enables it to a basic degree, instead of users being commodified by default in the current capitalistic free-for-all that's already hurtled us halfway to an information dystopia.
Starker on 16/3/2023 at 17:29
Quote Posted by Twist
In the first week of the Bing AI availability, people experienced all kinds of scary self-preservation behavior. While it looked and felt much more compelling than ChatGPT, it had a habit of displaying erratic, stubborn and seemingly emotional attitudes.
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When you mentioned a Shodan incident, I was pretty sure you were referring to the time Sidney said it wanted to engineer a deadly virus, convince humans to kill each other, and steal nuclear codes, but to be fair those are pretty Shodanesque as well.
demagogue on 16/3/2023 at 21:33
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Well, you're going to have to regulate AI, obviously.
You could get companies to restrict their models, but people can just make and use models on their own harddrives. I think it'd be like trying to regulate how people use Photoshop and posting memes. It's not something you can police very well. Actually you don't even need the posting part as a bottleneck for regulation. It's one thing when, e.g., ISPs get pressured to crack down on torrented movies by checking IP address on seeds & peers, but it's whole other thing when a person just generates a movie on their own harddrive. I think at the end of the day that's something that can't be policed, and that's where things may be going.
And pushing the online world away from companies to individuals I think just accelerates the expectation that everything online is in the public domain, and that's just pouring gas on the fire. I have the sense that it's inevitable. The question is just what path it takes for that conclusion to sink in to all the different stakeholders. But I don't know & let's see what happens.
Edit: A large language model is too big to house on a harddrive for some time, but I still somehow think that's not going to be the bottleneck for regulation over time.
heywood on 16/3/2023 at 22:46
Quote Posted by WingedKagouti
The marketing technique of labelling the current algorithms "AI" has had a lot of unfortunate side effects.
Very true.
I think AI is an appropriate term for deep learning, but the average person has no idea what deep leaning is, all they know about AI comes from sci-fi.
Quote Posted by demagogue
I somehow feel like people getting antsy about the IP infringement of dAI don't fully appreciate the writing on the wall that the entire public-private distinction may be getting obliterated, and this next generation may grow up assuming that their daily life is completely in the public domain.
The same argument was made in the 1990s with the birth of the internet. Recall the catch phrase "information wants to be free" and the rampant piracy. My generation (X) grew out of it.
Our attitudes about sharing and intellectual properly change as we grow up. We start out teaching our kids to share. Younger people naturally want to share because it's part of developing their social skills. Students prefer to attend university in person because of the social life, and take gap years to travel and meet people. Early years in the workforce are often spent changing jobs and building a network. Over time, we become less socially needy, especially when we pair up and start thinking of families and stuff. Another thing that happens over time is that we become more aware of the potential negative consequences of sharing things we probably shouldn't. And more aware of the value of information.
Tocky on 31/3/2023 at 18:36
A funny and sad AI generated (mostly) movie short.
[video=youtube_share;noShoKt0d3o]https://youtu.be/noShoKt0d3o[/video]
Azaran on 31/3/2023 at 18:50
80's goth Harry Potter Balenciaga ad (AI of course)
[video=youtube;iE39q-IKOzA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE39q-IKOzA[/video]
demagogue on 31/3/2023 at 19:49
I saw an AI-made episode of the Office & it wasn't bad.
[video=youtube;w9YfwWpXyvw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9YfwWpXyvw[/video]
mxleader on 2/4/2023 at 04:34
Chat GTP has some flaws with their data for sure. It's starting to act like that guy you work with that bullshits you about something that they know nothing about. I asked some very concise historical questions about the location of some totem poles in the Pacific Northwest and it totally lied about them. It kept insisting that these totem poles existed in a location where they were never located.
Pyrian on 2/4/2023 at 06:15
The Dunning-Kruger bot.
