Chade on 16/8/2017 at 21:34
GMD, I'm kinda confused how biased govt. representation disproves racism.
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The neo-Nazi right I'd still argue is a very small contingent. The Trump-supporting Right is a much larger group, still screwball and enraged with race mixed up in there, but they're not the ones that will be protesting or violent...
I'd very much like to believe you are right, but it feels like the same sort of "let's be reasonable, this is fine" rhetoric that is so damn intuitive to people like me who have grown up around the time of the great moderation and the "end of history", but hasn't had a very good track record in the US since Trump got into power. Even after the election, if you'd told me there would be an open fascism rally in the land of the free, and the theoretically most powerful person on earth would stand up and openly
support them (you could argue that but I'm sticking to it), with nothing more that a few impotent tut-tut's from the people nominally responsible for applying the "checks and balances" in your system, I would have laughed at you. Oops.
One thing that has become clear is that steady application of a right-wing reality distortion filter over time by far-right media ... works. The Neo-Nazi contingent is small now perhaps, but if Trump and Breitbart get behind them I don't see why that can't change over time. Perhaps not literal support of Nazi's, but support of their policies? Hasn't a substantial portion of the US electorate been dragged half-way there already?
Kolya on 16/8/2017 at 22:58
Quote Posted by Renzatic
I think most of our lingering issues have now been blown open, and exposed for all the world to see. Honestly, I don't think a simple show about this most contentious of issues will be anything more than white noise backing the screaming, hateful reality we're now facing.
[video=youtube;P54sP0Nlngg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DP54sP0Nlngg&has_verified=1[/video]
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http://digg.com/2017/vice-charlottesville-documentary-christopher-cantwell-crying-neo-nazi) Neo-Nazi Subject Of VICE's Charlottesville Documentary Sobs On YouTube After Warrant Issued For His Arrest
Yes, it's the self-righteous grinning guy with the guns in his shoes.
Renzatic on 16/8/2017 at 23:08
You beat me to it.
I just can't feel sorry for the guy. I don't care how much he cries, he brought it all on himself.
Renzatic on 17/8/2017 at 00:56
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http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/16/donald-trump-needs-to-not-be-president-yesterday/) Even The Federalist is getting in on calling Trump out for his speech yesterday.
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It's time for that to stop. It's time to stop looking at the latest Trump statement in relation to how bad you think the alternative is on the Left, or how biased the media is, and instead to compare it to what we should actually expect from a president. In a country where 99 percent of the population is opposed to Nazis, it should be the easiest thing in the world for an American president to unite the country by appealing to our shared values. Only Trump could take one of the most uncontroversial ideas in American politics, the Indiana Jones Rule, and turn it into a wrenching national argument.
Goldmoon Dawn on 17/8/2017 at 02:08
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Actually, just shut the fuck up, Goldmoon.
Here, lets take off the bubble blinders for just one second, sorry for the inconvenience, you can pull them over your eyes again shortly:
Yeah, because it sends such an overwhelming message of equality to have an all WHITE government, especially to all the colored folks down in the ghettos.
/blinders back on
Goldmoon Dawn on 17/8/2017 at 02:16
Okay you ASSHAT, go back to my very first post and answer the question!
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Okay, lets be responsible here and in order to assign proper blame lets answer a question:
What percentage of all senators and congressmen in America are WHITE?
And, a little follow up question:
How long has it been this way?
PERCENTAGE, you... asshat.
Asshat.
Renzatic on 17/8/2017 at 02:22
...yeah?
Goldmoon Dawn on 17/8/2017 at 02:29
Jesus Christ!
The predominately WHITE American government has been sending the ultimate message of inequality since the beginning. How does *anyone* have any right to whine about "racism".
Renzatic on 17/8/2017 at 02:36
While it's never a bad thing to have proportional representation, the fact that the seats in congress don't skew perfectly along demographic lines isn't, by itself, proof of endemic racism.
Though what does this have to do with actual, honest to god Nazis marching in Charlottesville? How does it determine anyone's right to whine about anything?
