Renzatic on 17/8/2017 at 21:33
This, ladies and gentlemen, is how the conspiratorial mind works. He doesn't have any damning proof of anything, only claims, and uses a series of events, circumstantially related, that can be strung together to form the basis of any theory imaginable in lieu.
And then GMD shows up.
"They're all out to get you because they're all out to get you! OPEN YOUR EYES, SHEEPLE!"
heywood on 17/8/2017 at 21:38
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Yeah, you have a point. It's hard to say we're indifferent to proactive about social issues when you consider our history with blacks, minorities, gays, and etc.. I think we like to consider ourselves more on the libertarian side of the social axis, but we're really all over the map in that regard.
We've been debating the limits of freedom of speech and assembly as applied to hate groups, especially when they are intending to intimidate or hoping to incite a riot.
But I was thinking more of the debates over sexual and gender freedom, abortion, gun rights, drug enforcement and legalization, tobacco, and even sugary drinks.
I wish the country was more socially libertarian overall.
Quote Posted by Thor
No, I mean it's a stupid way to die. But with political protests (especially these ones that seem to be carried out by dimwits that don't know anything about anything) I think it's a given that you're potentially endangering yourself.
Kinda like driving a car I guess (as in there's a chance you're gonna get dead, but probably with a bigger chance), but unnecessary. I guess my lack of respect for such things feeds into this view.
You don't respect political activism? Geez...
Anyway, you ought to be able go and protest (or counter-protest) without worrying about getting killed. That should be obvious.
Goldmoon Dawn on 17/8/2017 at 21:51
Renzatic.
Aside from everything else going on here, could you or anyone for that matter, please describe your thoughts and feelings on the fact that America has been led by *white* people from the start. I mean with all of this concern over the various races, surely this cant sit right with you. Just want to hear...
Go.
Renzatic on 17/8/2017 at 21:58
Quote Posted by heywood
We've been debating the limits of freedom of speech and assembly as applied to hate groups, especially when they are intending to intimidate or hoping to incite a riot.
But I was thinking more of the debates over sexual and gender freedom, abortion, gun rights, drug enforcement and legalization, tobacco, and even sugary drinks.
I wish the country was more socially libertarian overall.
Strangely enough, I still stand by the notion that the Neo-Nazis and Klan should be allowed to march and protest, provided they do so peacefully. Not because I think they have anything worthwhile to say, but because it's simply not a good idea to allow an ever changing, always malleable western style government to enshrine what constitutes hate speech into law. You have to think of the subject on a slippery slope. Do you really want to set precedence that would allow a group like, say, the Trump administration the means to declare any negative comments against the presidency a direct and actionable threat against the US government as a whole?
There's a Popehat article (that might've been posted in this thread, I can't remember) that did a excellent job of explaining why we have to tolerate hate speech on the 1st Amendment level. I'll see if I can dig it up again.
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https://www.popehat.com/2017/08/14/america-at-the-end-of-all-hypotheticals/) HERE IT IS!
Quote Posted by Krush
Another White Nazi vehicle killing in Spain. Copycat of the Charlottesville attack perhaps?
No, that's not nearly as bad because they're all misunderstood Muslims. They're not as bad as white devil people.
HURRR HURRR DURR DE DURR HURRR
Krush on 17/8/2017 at 22:20
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they're all misunderstood Muslims. They're not as bad as white devil people.
You act as if that's a joke, but that does seem to be your actual views when boiled down.
Renzatic on 17/8/2017 at 22:24
Have I ever once said we were being too hard on ISIS? Have I ever once tried to excuse a terrorist attack on here?
I think the problem, Krush, is that you spend more time railing against the filthy scarecrow waving its broomstick arms about that you've labeled "The Liberal" in your head than you do arguing with anything I or anyone else here has actually said.
Nicker on 17/8/2017 at 23:33
Oh this is rich. [video=youtube;CX59HPnOhzE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX59HPnOhzE[/video]
Goldmoon Dawn on 18/8/2017 at 01:46
Ya know, if they get rid of Trump, then all the slimy freaks are gonna start comin' back out, thinking its OK to be gay and to let little boys go into our little daughters bathrooms. FREAKS. Please dont get rid of Trump PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We almost got this country on the right track to nail this shit down, dont do it NOW!!!
Why cant we just have a normal country.
:)
All the while, everyone just mulls about blissfully ignorant to the WHITE SUPREMECY that *rules the world*. But lets micro manage some bullshit false flag events, and keep the division in progress.
Renzatic on 18/8/2017 at 03:11
You're kinda begging to be banned, aren't you?