DuatDweller on 17/9/2025 at 10:35
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There's no "trans", only a person in a furry custom with a female anime-version of that image. You can do that being a fascist too, just to show how you're good at irony.
I think USA right-wing people are just mad people (more mad than the average european right-wing hothead). Yes, at large. Just see how they fantasize about all of this and that's why in USA people like Kirk become saints.
More and more americans=russians. It's something about the raw number of population (and the competition).....the more they are the more they get mad.
Since I have a distorted view of reality, cut me some slack ok, and besides it was a reference to an old movie joke.
Azaran on 18/9/2025 at 04:24
Bill Maher with arguably the most sensible perspective on this
[video=youtube;fgqt4gA6qOo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgqt4gA6qOo[/video]
PigLick on 18/9/2025 at 08:37
Nah, its a bunch of white males making themselves feel better.
Azaran, fuck off for a little while and rethink.
Briareos H on 18/9/2025 at 08:57
Every time I see Maher I find his smug absolute certainty that *he's* right so grating. This entire exchange (if you can call it an exchange) sounds so empty, just... nothing.
PigLick on 18/9/2025 at 11:43
We're normal men. just innocent men.
Nicker on 18/9/2025 at 13:08
Maher's been lost for a few years now, ever since he hopped on his "both-sides-bad" horse and used it as a platform to flail at the left (which was presumably an act of self-flagellation as well), blaming them for Trump while leaving the right largely un assailed.
Maher is already drunk and drunk logic only works accidentally. A man drinking spirits straight from a bottle is never at his rational best.
His first incomprehensible argument seemed to be that Charlie was admirable because at least Kirk was talking, as if the left has been silent, which is astoundingly untrue. Perhaps Bill hasn't been listening. And while Kirk has been talking, it's been largely violent shite coming out of his mouth. Hardly quality content.
His second point was to identify everybody who took the least pleasure in the irony of Kirk's death as "the problem with America". Kirk repeatedly said that the random deaths of innocents was the justifiable price of upholding the gawd gibbon right for universal gun ownership as (not actually) promised in the 2nd Amendment. Kirk died as a glorious example of the values he lived for, and finding some ironic pleasure in that is justifiable schadenfreude.
And calling people who felt that way "the problem with America" is the kind of simplistic targeting which fascist regimes, like Trump's, delight in.
I couldn't listen after that.
RippedPhreak on 18/9/2025 at 14:35
Kirk's talk of guns is no different than saying although many people die in car wrecks every year, we aren't outlawing cars because there are benefits to having cars.
Or saying that even if people get addicted to pain medications, we still aren't going to outlaw them because these medications have benefits.
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finding some ironic pleasure in that is justifiable schadenfreude.
And this is exactly why more and more normal people are waking up to the Left being weird and repulsive.
Renault on 18/9/2025 at 15:18
Yeah, I'm fairly moderate on the political side of things, but hearing about someone getting enjoyment or happiness out of someone's murder, especially a guy with a wife and kids, is just kind of sickening.
Jason Moyer on 18/9/2025 at 15:19
The guns vs cars thing has never made any sense because cars are literally more regulated than anything else you can buy in this country. I don't think the vast majority of people who would like to see some restrictions on gun availability would be upset if we treated them like cars. It would actually be close to Canada's gun laws.
Nicker on 18/9/2025 at 17:39
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Yeah, I'm fairly moderate on the political side of things, but hearing about someone getting enjoyment or happiness out of someone's murder, especially a guy with a wife and kids, is just kind of sickening.
Is that more sickening than preaching that dead school kids and grieving families are a fair and completely acceptable price too pay for unfettered access to fire arms? (Unfettered except for (according to the new standards of MAGA) LGBTQTrans people, who represent a fraction of 1% of mass shooters?)
Kirk is at least indirectly responsible for the continuation and normalization of mass shooting. He's not an innocent bystander.
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Kirk's talk of guns is no different than saying although many people die in car wrecks every year, we aren't outlawing cars because there are benefits to having cars.
Except that cars kill when misused and guns kill when used correctly. Category error and big fucking difference.
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And this is exactly why more and more normal people are waking up to the Left being weird and repulsive.
If you don't like what you see in the mirror, turn away.
