uncadonego on 29/6/2009 at 20:30
Beauty. Do you fillet and skin? How do you like it compared to walleye or yellow perch? That's a pumpkinseed right? Everything is hybrid around my place.
Edit: your bluegill are probably a bit darker striped than ours. Pics on the net I checked vary wildly. Some are almost violet, some are almost yellow.
gunsmoke on 29/6/2009 at 20:40
Well, I like to to clean my fish pretty well. I DO have a girlfriend who is very picky to think of, after all. I tend to bread a skinned fish (cornmeal is a favorite) and season it with the typical salt/pepper/maybe something with some kick. As far as the texture and flavor are concerned, they aren't too far off from the species you noted. They are more 'meaty' however.
uncadonego on 30/6/2009 at 01:33
Have you ever tried largemouth bass? It seems it might taste good. For example, yellow perch, walleye, and sauger are the same family of fish, and they taste similar. A couple of sidewinders like flounder and halibut taste similar too. So what I'm thinking now that I've tried bluegills and found them tasty is that they are a sunfish, and despite being called largemouth bass, they are actually a sunfish, not really a bass, so they may taste similar. Do you have an equivalent species in Dublin to a largemouth bass, and have you tried it?
gunsmoke on 30/6/2009 at 11:24
I grew up around Dublin, but now I have lived in the (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynoldsburg) Birthplace of the tomato for the past 5 years. Anyway, yeah, we have awesome Bass fishing in central Ohio. These are the typical fish you can find around here, (
http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/subcategory_topic.php?c=NH&s=ANMLS&t=FISH).
Anyway, Bass are some tasty fish, though trout is my favorite. Mmmm.
Guess what? Last night I went night fishing (about 1 am). I felt something strong as Hell on the line. I thought it to be a carp, the way it felt. I fought it for 15-20 minutes. My dog started going nuts, and that is very atypical behaviour for her. Well, when I got the fish to shore, and flipped on the lantern....a goddamn snapping turtle was staring my dead in the eye. I about lost a finger trying to free it. Most idiot fishermen just cut the line, and let the turtles go with hook still in mouth. :mad: I really didn't want to do that. I put some heavy gloves on, and went to work with my needlenose pliers. Safe and sound, I put him back in the water, and he merrily went on his way. Scared the crap out of me, I have never been bitten by one, and I don't want to.
uncadonego on 30/6/2009 at 17:42
Oh so you border on Lake Erie like me. Do you ever get out in the lake and fish the stocked Rainbow hybrids? You know the steelhead, part salmon part rainbow trout. They are coloured just like a rainbow trout but have that long salmon body. Flesh tastes great too. We use downriggers around sweet spots cruising at just about 3 m.p.h.
I have a pond that's 70 ft. across and about 18 ft. deep, and there's a huge snapper in there. I have a couple of drum in there, a bunch of Koi, some largemouth bass, a bunch of bluegills, catfish, etc. I don't even try to support fish that like fresh moving water, because it's a round closed body of water. Anyway, for fishing my own pond on occasion, I take the barbs off the hooks and just release. One time I swear it must have been that monster snapper I catch sunning on the tree trunk I keep floating in the pond. I was reeling in from the bottom. BAM! For one second or a tad longer the line stops DEAD in its tracks with something holding it as though it might as well have been my horse. Then almost immediately the line is loose and my tackle is gone. I wouldn't want my fingers anywhere near that monster. You are quite compassionate and brave at the same time to get the hook out of one of those guys' mouths!
EDIT: Just looking at a geographical map of OHIO here. There aren't as many inland bodies of water as Ontario, but there is a pretty generous amount of inland water there. Lots of rivers and small lakes. Looks like anyone in Ohio that wanted to go fishing would be within an hour of a nice fishing hole.
EDIT:Added picture. These two fish have the exact same species name. Environment is the only difference. One is landlocked and the other returns to the ocean. Note the differences in shape and colour. One is a trophy if it's ten lbs., the other has been recorded around 60 lbs. I think Ontario and four states produce fingerlings of the ocean variety and stock the lake for some awesome fishing. Since they are the same species, you get many variations in colours and shapes, and even the colour of the flesh. Last year I caught one that had almost peach coloured flesh. You usually catch stockies, and they are the more silverish and salmon shaped ones.
Inline Image:
http://www.3dgathome.com/theadams/cgi-bin/steelhead-rainbow.jpgthese pics aren't my catches, they were taken off the net. Errr...INTERnet that is. Ha! Get it? How about on your side of the lake gunsmoke? Which closer resembles what you usually catch on that side?
gunsmoke on 5/7/2009 at 19:43
Hey, man. I used to (well my mom) own a 35' sailboat that we kept docked at (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Clinton,_Ohio) Port Clinton, OH.
I had a small outboard Bass Boat that I trailered there as well. I spent Friday through Sunday night there for 1/2 the year. We would then pull the sailboat, and store it on stilts for the winter.
Anyway, yeah, I have fished my ASS off in Lake Erie (and DRANK my ass off at (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Put-in-Bay,_Ohio) Put-In-Bay). Yeah, so, it really depends on where I am in Erie as to what species I catch. Several stock species of Trout, Walleye, and Yellow Perch, and in the shallower waters Bass, Sunfish/Bluegill, and bottom-feeders. Those pics are some nice specimens, btw, and I would be proud to land one like those. I remember most of my trout catches being more Rainbow/Salmon-ey than silver trout.
So, I have a quick question: I keep several dozen live Crickets for my pet (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Toad) American Toad. Yeah, so Crickets don't live long, 1-2 weeks. I also like fishing with them. What I want to know is simply this: since the mortality rate is high with them, can I simply fish with the Crickets that recently died or must I bait them live? Thanks!
uncadonego on 6/7/2009 at 15:41
I don't know, I've never tried dead crickets. I've used crickets and grasshoppers live hooked through the back to attract largemouth bass and panfish, but never dead. I'll experiment. I'll catch some crickets and once they die I'll give it a shot in my bass pond and let you know if they still take the hook.
I know dead minnows were still catching yellow perch galore last week, but hey, if they are hungry enough you can use canned corn on the hook for those guys. I doubt they would turn down a cricket in any stage of liveliness.
ALSO: I saw a rig that allows you to twist a couple of wires around the body of the insect rather than skewer it. The head points toward the tip of the hook, with the bend going around the top of the head. Then the tiny wires are twisted so it can't escape, but can swim pretty freely and stays alive longer. You can rub crisco on the hook to help it float better. Pretty elaborate, but good for finicky fishing times.
gunsmoke on 7/7/2009 at 00:34
Awesome. Have a link handy for that wired-live-bait rig? Anyway, I have been doing EXCEPTIONALLY well with bread. And I caught 2 minnows todays, by the way. :D :joke:
uncadonego on 7/7/2009 at 02:35
It was a hand-drawn diagram in an old fishing magazine. I don't even remember the name of the rig. I'll see if I can find it sometime. If I find it I'll scan the drawings and post them here.
Another oddity I had great success with was 33 years ago. My ex brother-in-law worked at Ford at the time, and he made some jigs and soaked them in the blueprint ink until they were a dark purple. We rowboated out from the Riverdale Ave canal in Windsor towards Peche Island until we lined up two points of reference with two points of reference further away (the non-GPS old fashioned way of finding your same spot). We just raised and lowered the jigs gently and caught both our limits of walleye, while others nearby weren't having any success. They asked what we were using, but they didn't believe us. Colour has become so fundamental nowadays. Never hurts to experiment.
I have a very wise largemouth in my pond that never takes bait. He just seems to know. The bigger they get the more they learn. They say fish have two minutes of memory, but I swear the huge ones in the channels look first and remember baits and never try them again. Well, I took a long fake purple worm and melted two yellow small wigglers to the front and two small white wigglers to the back for legs. The SECOND it hit the water he came after it and I finally caught him and released him. He never took it again.
Once I lost a largemouth that I wanted for my pond. I know they like to be somewhat territorial, and by feel I realized that next to the bridge where I first caught him, there was a deeper section in only one spot. I went back three days in a row and put the bait in front of his spot and got him again. Since I got him out of the water before he threw the hook the first time (don't you hate that?) I am pretty sure he was the same guy. Now he's in my pond.
Some people only like fishing for certain species, but I'm just as happy reeling in a rainbow from a downrigger as I am catching a mess of perch anchored in one spot, as I am catching a bass under the dock. It's all fun in its own way. And as long as I can tell the fisherman isn't lying through his teeth, I like listening to their experiences too.
gunsmoke on 7/7/2009 at 11:28
I wish I had a pond. The river is LOW right now, and extremely clear, so finding fish is a lot easier this week. I have been using grubs, crickets, bread lately. I am moving around a bit, looking for a nice new spot, and found a way to get to an unaccessible spot across the river (There is a huge, sheer 'cliff' behind it, and you simply can't get there safely with all your gear). I took an inflateable baby pool down there, and a small paddle. Well, I floated over there! Had to paddle like hell, but I made it. It is cool, as the bank is extremely undercut, and there is a fallen tree there. I knew there were some big, old, wise fish just chilling out there staying out of the way.
I was right. God, there are some huge fish there. Channel Catfish heaven. I tried some stinkbait (day-old raw chicken mashed into some dogfood), cornbread dough, and even bubblegum. They all got hits within minutes. I actually caught 2 of them with the cornbread dough. They had to be 3 pounds. Maybe 4, but def. 3.
Have to go to the store and get some more artificial lures. Do you recommend any that you have had luck with?