ZylonBane on 26/10/2012 at 03:22
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Still goofing around with my cobwebs. What do you all think of this...
What's up with making some of the cowebs look like..... saliva? Clear ectoplasm?
Renzatic on 26/10/2012 at 03:26
I figured out I'm quite good at drawing snot, and wanted to flex my abilities.
To me, it looks like halloween haunted house cobwebs if anything. Let me see if brightening it up a bit fixes it.
edit: check out the previous page. I might need to soften up a couple.
LarryG on 26/10/2012 at 04:34
I would say that the cobwebs are made out of yarn. They are way too thick. They should be thin and wispy.
Renzatic on 26/10/2012 at 07:49
If they're too thin, then you barely notice them. What I'm trying to go for is an effect somewhat like this, but made a little thicker and dustier so they stand out more...
Inline Image:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3018396/cobweb%202.jpgI've only got so much resolution to work with, and the shadows over the books obscure, so I either have to make them a little thick, or make them overly bright if you want to notice them. I went with thicker, since it looks better to me.
So how's this?
Inline Image:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3018396/bookshelf_cobweb_2.jpg
Nameless Voice on 26/10/2012 at 09:02
You're going to hate me for this, but the thing that's annoying me the most about that texture now is the fact that so many of the books are really thick, whereas most of the books in the original texture were thin.
Look at the bottom-left shelf, for example - the are much fewer, fatter books there in the new version than in the original, where the shelf was cram-packed full of thinner volumes (which looked more like a large reference collection of similar titles, rather than assorted books.)
These were probably meant to be something like log books, which would be thin and same-y looking. Keepers love to write everything down, so them having shelves filed with logs would make perfect sense.
Contrast the top-left shelf, which looks spot-on in terms of the size and shapes of the books there.
The books in the original texture also look really tightly packed, whereas all these thick books give too much of an impression of empty space. A Keeper library should be packed and overflowing with books.
The looser, less organised look in this texture fits more with the rescore bookcase families (you wouldn't expect e.g. Ramirez to have as well-organised bookshelves as the Keepers.)
Renzatic on 26/10/2012 at 10:37
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
You're going to hate me for this, but the thing that's annoying me the most about that texture now is the fact that so many of the books are really thick, whereas most of the books in the original texture were thin.
Sigh. Damn. If you, ZB and Larry all agree it should be redone, I'll do it. It'll take a vote to move me, because I kinda like it as is.
...but
If you all do you agree to it, I want to work on another texture first. I've spent more time on this damn thing than most painters do on their masterpieces. I need to take a break from it before I come back and redo all those books, shadows, cobwebs...
Gawww.
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The looser, less organised look in this texture fits more with the rescore bookcase families (you wouldn't expect e.g. Ramirez to have as well-organised bookshelves as the Keepers.)
Yeah, I can replace the bookcase itself fairly easily. Still taking a break from it if you all think it should be completely redone, though. :P
Nameless Voice on 26/10/2012 at 12:04
Quote Posted by LarryG
I can sharpen that up some, but remember, the players will be seeing it no closer than a crouch away. I think as flooring it should look used and dirty.
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I still don't understand how these can function as drop-in replacements for the objects that use them, or is the plan to redo those objects as well?
They can't. Like I said, people using texture replace with terrain textures on pressure plates didn't occur to me when I talked about how we could replace textures with 2x2 versions with variations.
However, in this specific case, the 2x2 version in the place of the 1x1 version will actually look better on the places that use this texture in the OMs, so we might be able to get away with it. Otherwise.... .dml for the OMs?
LarryG on 26/10/2012 at 14:03
The new cobwebs look much better. Though the straight lines look like there is scratched glass between us and the book case. Can you get rid of the scratches?
As to the number and size of the books, I'm OK with it as is. I would prefer a closer match, but I understand how hard it is to find / make high resolution replacements. So count me as an abstain on this question.
LarryG on 26/10/2012 at 14:24
What do you all think about this interpretation of the tiles, a hand made terra cotta style with depth. I'm beginning to like it.
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or this, which I think tiles a little better
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