Vae on 25/10/2012 at 20:40
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Magically turning clear glass to opaque and blue? :weird:
The glass is clear, and like I said earlier, a colder, exaggerated bluish tone, is often used to artistically portray moonlight...just like how the firelight is exaggerated with a golden yellow...This is part of the surreality of The World.
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How are you even thinking that a cabinet
inside the window would influence reflective effects on the
outside of the glass?
You need to look at the textures more 3-dimensionally.
The cabinet is nothing more than an occlusion for light passing on either side of it. The portrayed bluish moonlight is being seen within the
space beyond the glass, just like the firelight, and is not a reflection. This is why the moonlit variation ended up also working for peering out into the outer night from inside.
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I realise that, but it still doesn't really help us with our high-res replacements.
The cabinet needs to be eliminated...I would see this as a
fix. The best way to keep the original look, would probably be to make the cabinet area into a thick metal part of the frame without the diamond overlay...'twould be nearly an unnoticeable difference.
LarryG on 25/10/2012 at 20:58
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
Terra cotta is naturally reddish-brown. To make it blue, my admittedly very limited knowledge of the subject is that it would have to be painted (unlikely for a floor tile) or glazed, which would elminate surface roughness... as would simply being walked on for decades.
Now (
http://www.solarantiquetiles.com/ShowCategory.asp?cid=1) this looks like a handy site!
Terra cotta can come in lots of colors, depending on the color of the clay used.
LarryG on 25/10/2012 at 21:48
I can sharpen that up some, but remember, the players will be seeing it no closer than a crouch away. I think as flooring it should look used and dirty.
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I still don't understand how these can function as drop-in replacements for the objects that use them, or is the plan to redo those objects as well?
ZylonBane on 25/10/2012 at 21:51
Quote Posted by Vae
The portrayed bluish moonlight is being seen within the
space beyond the glass, just like the firelight, and is not a reflection.
So you're saying that moonlight is entering the window, then lighting up the interior space and bouncing back onto the glass, lighting it up
more brightly than the surrounding surfaces that are being directly illuminated. And that the glass is apparently clear to incoming light but translucent to outgoing light. Take off the crazypants.
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The best way to keep the original look, would probably be to make the cabinet area into a thick metal part of the frame without the diamond overlay...'twould be nearly an unnoticeable difference.
That would be the
worst fix, because the diamond pattern is a far more noticeable feature than a stray strip of coloration.
Vae on 25/10/2012 at 22:22
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So you're saying that moonlight is entering the window, then lighting up the interior space and bouncing back onto the glass, lighting it up
more brightly than the surrounding surfaces that are being directly illuminated. And that the glass is apparently clear to incoming light but translucent to outgoing light. Take off the crazypants.
I'm saying that this was the artist's interpretation of moonlight, dimly cascading through the window in order to create an obscure effect, which by deductive reasoning it has to be...Unsurprisingly, they didn't obsessively hyper-scrutinize the detailed interplay of physics and light, and instead relied upon artistic license to fulfill their need...The only thing "crazy" happening here, is your futile obsession to prove me wrong, simply because of a previous misperception on your part.
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That would be the
worst fix, because the diamond pattern is a far more noticeable feature than a stray strip of coloration.
A strip of coloration at the bottom would make the window appear longer, thereby creating a more obvious difference...yet, it's a trade-off, so I think I'm okay with it either way.
Nameless Voice on 25/10/2012 at 22:29
Looking at the original again, it seems rather obvious that it's a curtain.
Vae on 25/10/2012 at 22:34
There's no way it could be a curtain, because the artist would never be so idiotic as to not have light pass through the rest of the window...this is very basic.
Renzatic on 25/10/2012 at 22:36
I'm still looking for this cabinet everyone's bitching about...
Vae on 25/10/2012 at 22:42
We're talking about the object on the inside of the window that's blocking the lower part of it. It's the back of a cabinet or some other object.
ZylonBane on 25/10/2012 at 22:45
Quote Posted by Vae
There's no way it could be a curtain, because the artist would never be so idiotic as to not have light pass through the rest of the window...this is very basic.
You are aware that the vast majority of Thief's textures are photo-sourced, yes? The unlit, "daytime" version is almost certainly the original photograph, with the nighttime version created from it by a very busy graphic artist who didn't take the time to realize exactly what he was looking at.
