SD on 9/7/2020 at 21:09
I don't view non-binary people as a threat to binary identities. I view people with penises as a threat to people without. People need to stop making this about transgenderism when it's about possession of a rape tool.
Starker on 9/7/2020 at 21:11
Quote Posted by SD
No, she hasn't been fired from anything - yet. But you can bet that what she does will be heavily scrutinised from here on in.
Outside of the social media bubble, would she even know she has been cancelled, unless someone specifically told her or she happened to read a tabloid?
Kolya on 9/7/2020 at 21:18
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it's about possession of a rape tool.
Yeah, I like to give mine a nicer name. And frankly this whole thing about all men being potential rapists isn't jiving with me. Someone brought up individual stalls and I think the bathroom discussion pretty much ended there, because it's obviously the best solution.
SD on 9/7/2020 at 21:29
Quote Posted by Kolya
Yeah, I like to give mine a nicer name. And frankly this whole thing about all men being potential rapists isn't jiving with me. Someone brought up individual stalls and I think the bathroom discussion pretty much ended there, because it's obviously the best solution.
Fine for bathrooms, there's never been a law here against anyone using whatever bathroom they want. What about prisons? Hospital wards? Communal locker rooms?
caffeinatedzombeh on 9/7/2020 at 21:30
Does a communal locker room exist in a post pandemic world?
Kolya on 9/7/2020 at 21:35
Yeah, individual stalls only work for bathrooms and changing rooms. Prisons actually should be secure for anyone, since there's also same gender rape. I didn't know that hospital wards were gender separated.
SubJeff on 9/7/2020 at 21:49
Changing rooms in gyms can't possibly have single changing stalls for all the people using them of they'd take up 2-4 times the area they do now.
june gloom on 9/7/2020 at 21:50
Quote Posted by SD
I don't view non-binary people as a threat to binary identities. I view people with penises as a threat to people without. People need to stop making this about transgenderism when it's about possession of a rape tool.
that's not what i said, genius, holy shit, your reading comprehension has failed you
here, let me dumb it down for you:
natalie wynn (the contrapoints lady) is a trans woman who believes very strongly in the gender binary
natalie wynn sees non-binary people as a threat to her binaried identity
you, a self-identified straight man (nevermind the fixation on penis) who waxed philosophical on big boobies because that was totally necessary for this discussion, tried to argue that trans women, who identify as the "woman" end of the gender spectrum (i.e. are binary) are in fact not
really that but must instead be somewhere in the middle -- ergo, you're using the non-binary model of gender identity
to invalidate a binary person's identity.
therefore, natalie wynn (the contrapoints lady) is, ironically, correct about the threat to her identity, but it comes not from non-binary people like me, but, like most of the world's problems, a cishet man (you.)
SubJeff on 9/7/2020 at 21:50
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Even chromosomal arrangement isn't a perfect indicator. There are a number of various syndromes that cause people to develop opposite of their genetic makeup.
Sure. Doesn't invalidate my point though.