Canadian police behaving badly ... - by *Zaccheus*
Trappin on 29/8/2007 at 20:44
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It's not as if they had purposly left that McDonalds undefended, is it? I mean who could have forseen a bunch of anti-capitalists taking a McDonalds apart when that street was the only part of the demo devoid of any law enforcement?
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Also, why was there a botton charge (backed up by police vans) after one of the 2003 anti-war demos when a few hundred peaceful protesters were having a sitdown on Oxford Street?
At what point do large crowds become an unruly mob ? It's not an easy question to answer.
And when violence does erupt during a protest - the leading protest organizations usually are quoted as saying "a few bad apples" ruined the march. How much blame should rest on the shoulders of the organizers?
The police are an easy target, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
SD on 29/8/2007 at 21:05
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The police are an easy target, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
I think they just like cracking heads.
Taking the average protester into consideration, I can't really blame them.
*Zaccheus* on 29/8/2007 at 21:10
I have been on many demonstrations and I have been to even more European football matches. Most of the time the police are well behaved and even downright helpful.
But sometimes I do wonder what is going on behind the scenes. Like when the London police obstructed the Tibet protesters so they could not be seen by the visiting Chinese leader.
SubJeff on 29/8/2007 at 21:35
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Do undercover cops always walk around with a rock in their hand?
If they're trying to blend in with a bunch of rock wielding fellows, I'd hope so. Tip: it's something to do with being
undercover. What a stupid question.
Also this just in: Every policeman in the UK not supplied with all information on all police activities ever shocker.
You've really no idea why police blocked those protesters who the Chinese premier would have found very offensive? None? Nada? Really? I think you'd better just... er stop.
*Zaccheus* on 29/8/2007 at 21:52
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If they're trying to blend in with a bunch of rock wielding fellows ...
Did you even watch the video? The union official was quite insistent that he should put the rock down. They did not appear to be in a crowd of rock wielding fellows.
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Also this just in: Every policeman in the UK not supplied with all information on all police activities ever shocker.
You said he was at the Mayday protest. I was wondering if he might know. You also said he knew about baton usage policies.
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You've really no idea why police blocked those protesters who the Chinese premier would have found very offensive? None? Nada? Really? I think you'd better just... er stop.
In a democracy? No, sorry, I can't think of a valid reason.
fett on 30/8/2007 at 00:29
Expected naked cops ala 'girls behaving badly'. This thread doesn't deliver. :grr:
AR Master on 30/8/2007 at 02:00
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*Zaccheus* on 30/8/2007 at 07:42
I think the police's official version of events is that someone put the stone into the officer's hand. I find that unlikely. I also find it unlikely that the officer would have held on to the rock if that had been the case. The police initially even denied that the men in the video were their officers.
jay pettitt on 30/8/2007 at 15:01
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If they're trying to blend in with a bunch of rock wielding fellows, I'd hope so. Tip: it's something to do with being
undercover. What a stupid question.
It was the 'grandparents against spp' line. That they dressed like comedy anarchists is probably what broke their cover.
I remember those police charges into the sit down protests in fleet street after the stop the war march. Not entirely sure what the police were hoping to achieve there, mostly people just got out the way and then sat down again. Fluid dynamics and side streets are your friend.
