redfalcon on 31/10/2022 at 23:16
Hello, now that Embracer owns this IP, do you think the series has any potential and could be resurrected?Or is it better to leave it as it is?There has been such a huge silence since 2014...
Azaran on 1/11/2022 at 00:18
Please no
downwinder on 1/11/2022 at 00:43
simply contact them and ask,you never know what they might say
Estel Randir on 1/11/2022 at 08:05
Unless someone buys the IP that actually loves the classic feel & atmosphere, hell no leave it alone. If I suddenly came into a billion dollars, I would buy several IP's, remaster them in the classic style while bringing the engine & graphics to fully modern capacity. Then work on a new game.
I feel that Garrett & The City have a lot of really good stories that could be told & I am not talking about pre-quell's either.
redfalcon on 1/11/2022 at 15:09
Quote Posted by Estel Randir
Unless someone buys the IP that actually loves the classic feel & atmosphere, hell no leave it alone. If I suddenly came into a billion dollars, I would buy several IP's, remaster them in the classic style while bringing the engine & graphics to fully modern capacity. Then work on a new game.
I feel that Garrett & The City have a lot of really good stories that could be told & I am not talking about pre-quell's either.
Embracer acquired several square enix ips, so in my mind, I was thinking they could make use of the Thief Ip soon. I would want to see a game faithful to the original series if it happened, but also understand people's fears because nowadays, old ips are often ruined with sequels that include Gaas, wrong game design choices,etc.
Outsider One on 1/11/2022 at 16:01
Surely, Thief deserves a new game and more. This can't be denied. But you can't have a good Thief game anymore. It's too late now.
There was good game developers back then. They cared everything about a game. Today it's hard to find the proper team. Also, luck too. There is no guarantee things go well. If things go well, even if they don't repeat Thief 3's failures, you can't expect to have a good Thief game as Thief 3.
A good Thief requies a good story, innovation, good sound system, not open world but non-linear levels, hand sketch maps, freedoom charachter playing, non-casual gaming experience, dark ambient sound. A good Thief requies literature, religion and mysticism. A good Thief requies philosophical details. And more. That something you can't get today. There are no more talented Looking Glass people. Time has changed. Expectations and goals in game development has changed. Most game developers no longer care about game but their money in the pocket. We are talking about Embracer here, who nothing to do with Thief and owns many companies.
Thief 3 wasn't true Thief game as Thief 1 and Thief 2. Despite it's failures, it was a good game. At least, at one point, Thief 3 was able saved the legacy of the series without ruining more. Let's look at the point NuThief trash brought Thief today. NuThief ruined Thief name. The majority prefers NuThief over trilogy. They don't even try to play the trilogy. NuThief gets more preferred. In the stealth fan made works, you never see Thief mentioned or you see NuGarrett but in the background. No need to say more what NuThief trash brought. Nowadays, there is no point to make another one for nothing.
As a Thief fan, I would like to see the trilogy remastered. I would like to see Nightdive remaster the trilogy, like what they did to System Shock 1 and what they doing to System Shock 2 now. Thanks to NewDark author, Thief is in the better place, but not enough. NewDark is ok. I see unused potential. I believe removing or at least, extending the limitations on Dark Engine, more changes and more mod support, it will not only benefit the fan mission creators, but also resurrection of Thief. Remastering of Thief games might give the attention and value Thief deserves that it hasn't get yet, a little bit or maybe more. I don't even want to talk about the fall in the number of the fan missions in recent years.
downwinder on 2/11/2022 at 00:20
i think if a game is made to show proof of concept they should make a prequel to thief 1 ,if it does well then they can make thief 4,then a movie
i like new content
Estel Randir on 4/11/2022 at 06:15
Quote Posted by redfalcon
Embracer acquired several square enix ips, so in my mind, I was thinking they could make use of the Thief Ip soon..
Well they are ruining Gothic 1 as we speak. They will include all modern utter garbage systems of loot collecting, achievemts, all those cut scenes, etc that they started using in Tomb Raider reboots and Horizon Zero franchise.
Estel Randir on 4/11/2022 at 06:22
Quote Posted by Outsider One
Surely, Thief deserves a new game and more. This can't be denied. But you can't have a good Thief game anymore. It's too late now.
There was good game developers back then. They cared everything about a game. Today it's hard to find the proper team. Also, luck too. There is no guarantee things go well. If things go well, even if they don't repeat Thief 3's failures, you can't expect to have a good Thief game as Thief 3.
A good Thief requies a good story, innovation, good sound system, not open world but non-linear levels, hand sketch maps, freedoom charachter playing, non-casual gaming experience, dark ambient sound. A good Thief requies literature, religion and mysticism. A good Thief requies philosophical details. And more. That something you can't get today. There are no more talented Looking Glass people. Time has changed. Expectations and goals in game development has changed. Most game developers no longer care about game but their money in the pocket. We are talking about Embracer here, who nothing to do with Thief and owns many companies.
Thief 3 wasn't true Thief game as Thief 1 and Thief 2. Despite it's failures, it was a good game. At least, at one point, Thief 3 was able saved the legacy of the series without ruining more. Let's look at the point NuThief trash brought Thief today. NuThief ruined Thief name. The majority prefers NuThief over trilogy. They don't even try to play the trilogy. NuThief gets more preferred. In the stealth fan made works, you never see Thief mentioned or you see NuGarrett but in the background. No need to say more what NuThief trash brought. Nowadays, there is no point to make another one for nothing.
As a Thief fan, I would like to see the trilogy remastered. I would like to see Nightdive remaster the trilogy, like what they did to System Shock 1 and what they doing to System Shock 2 now. Thanks to NewDark author, Thief is in the better place, but not enough. NewDark is ok. I see unused potential. I believe removing or at least, extending the limitations on Dark Engine, more changes and more mod support, it will not only benefit the fan mission creators, but also resurrection of Thief. Remastering of Thief games might give the attention and value Thief deserves that it hasn't get yet, a little bit or maybe more. I don't even want to talk about the fall in the number of the fan missions in recent years.
Sadly, I agree with much of what you say. Games like Thief 1 & 2 (even with their flaws) are rare moments in any media realm. Moments when something special came together. Often copied but never reproduced.
demagogue on 4/11/2022 at 07:27
Sure there's a chance. I'm kind of wary, but sometimes you really can't predict.
I think it might be interesting if they bucked the trend and took it literally back to its retro roots, since retro FPS games are now actually a thing.
