Briareos H on 27/9/2010 at 14:59
@raph : lis les deux dernières pages de (
http://www.rubberfilm.com/media/pdf/revue_de_presse.pdf) cette revue de presse, le point de vue est intéressant (et si tu regardes la bande annonce de rubber, tu peux voir que les images et la lumière sont réellement saisissants)
Aja on 27/9/2010 at 22:19
Hey Scots, my brother's an expert when it comes to high-end cameras; next time I see him I'll ask him and let you know (I'm sure he'll have strong opinions on all of it).
Fafhrd on 28/9/2010 at 02:01
Quote Posted by Muzman
Shooting at a few different rates in 1080 can't really be underestimated and makes the major difference. 24p is a pretty useless rate by itself, particularly in PAL territories. The Canons can also shoot at 50 and 60 fps at 720 (well, a few of them) which presents some interesting possibilities (plus they have precise settings for both '30p' and true NTSC frame rates where the Nikons don't seem to yet, not that I really care about that. Some pros probably do).
Huh. I would've thought that if you were shooting with the intent for blu-ray or (much more unlikely for someone shooting with a DSLR) theatrical release, that 1080p24 would be the preferred shooting format. And that PAL vs NTSC weren't given much consideration when doing
anything at 720p and up. You're right about the D3S only doing 720 (and only motion JPEG at that, which I know is pretty naff), but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that with the D3100 and the D7000 both doing 1080p24 (and 720p30/25/24), that it can't be too long before Nikon pairs the D3S's sensor with a processor that can handle the 1080p h.264 compression.
And probably about a year before Nikon comes out with something more directly comparable to Canon for movie shooting (hell, a D3100 kit with an 18-55 lens has an MSRP $200(US) less than the T2i with the same lens (admittedly sacrificing about 4MP on stills (though there are conflicting schools of thought on the usefulness of anything much above around 12MP), and variable 1080p and 720p60/50 on movies. And you're limited to 10 minutes per clip... But 200 bucks is 200 bucks!))
gunsmoke on 28/9/2010 at 02:19
Anything decent for under $150? Just spent a grand on my drag bike ('77 Kawasaki 1000) , and still need a camera.
Muzman on 28/9/2010 at 16:15
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
Huh. I would've thought that if you were shooting with the intent for blu-ray or (much more unlikely for someone shooting with a DSLR) theatrical release, that 1080p24 would be the preferred shooting format. And that PAL vs NTSC weren't given much consideration when doing
anything at 720p and up. You're right about the D3S only doing 720 (and only motion JPEG at that, which I know is pretty naff), but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that with the D3100 and the D7000 both doing 1080p24 (and 720p30/25/24), that it can't be too long before Nikon pairs the D3S's sensor with a processor that can handle the 1080p h.264 compression.
I suppose you would want 24p for Bluray. Although, and I've never actually done it for bluray 24p, I think frame rate scale downs are pretty solid nowadays. Scale ups still remain more problematic.
At any rate, in my humble experience no one is talking about bluray or theatrical much these days. It's all TV and online. So frame rates are still going to matter for a while yet to some folks (digital theatres are apparently looking at higher rates too. Would be more interesting a development than 3d, if you ask me. Admitedly more when it gets to 60, 80 or 100). If you are looking for a big finish on a lot of media and you're that well backed and optimistic, you're going to go get a Red One or something and go the whole hog I'd think.
But yes, there's going to be a ton of these things from absolutely everybody in no time at all.
Nolocus on 30/9/2010 at 00:39
Directed at Scots Taffer:
I think you're definitely on the right track with a nice two lens setup, and the new 35mm 1.8 is fantastic. If I were jumping into DSLRs again, it would be with a mid-level Nikon body and that lens, along side a general purpose zoom for the wide/tele shots (like Nikon's 18-105mm)
The 35mm 1.8 is excellent not only for its "close range" abilities, but also for its general versatility. It is very fast, meaning it will let much more light through to the sensor than any kit lens, (and even most pro lenses) and will give you excellent low light performance as a result (on any body, not just the new Dxx that shoots at ten billion ISO) . It is also a very natural focal length that lends itself well to just about any shooting situation, without being "too wide" or "too long" to get the shot. It's also vastly sharper than most zoom lenses under $1700.
If you want something wider to compliment it (wider than an 18-55mm kit lens, that is, which is often wide enough) I'd recommend Sigma's 10-20mm f/4-5.6. It was a staff favourite at the camera shop I used to work at, specifically because it performs as well or better than similar Nikon/Canon offerings at a significantly lower price. That said, all dedicated wide angle lenses are going to be a bit pricey.
Lens shopping is a tricky thing, however, and I would always recommend buying lenses one at a time. Often, people will research their supposed ideal set of lenses, buy them all, and only end up using one. While the 35mm 1.8 is a solid, general-purpose lens that few would be unhappy with, extreme wide angle lenses aren't for everyone. If I were you, I'd get the 35mm and use it for a few months; you might find that you don't need the wide angle... or that you want on bad enough to justify something more expensive!
best,
brother of Aja
Scots Taffer on 30/9/2010 at 01:30
Thanks, and welcome to the forums!
Nolocus on 30/9/2010 at 06:31
No problem! Nice place you've got here.
rachel on 30/9/2010 at 21:08
Thanks for the suggestion, Nolocus. Welcome :)
Vernon on 12/10/2010 at 00:21
Okay, without a hell of a lot of research into this, I am looking at something like the Canon 550D or the Nikon 3100, for taking general pictures about the place and videos of some friends playing music.
The things I guess I need to know are firstly, how you record large amounts of 1080p footage. Do you hook up an external hard drive? 16 gig memory cards is a huge price per gigabyte. Secondly, is it possible to hook up a condenser microphone to these things? I have a phantom power unit and I imagine it would just work as per usual, but does anyone have any experience miking with these things?
