baeuchlein on 15/8/2023 at 22:03
I have looked at that specific conversation, but there is no apparent reason for why the cutscene should fail at this point. The lines before and after this spot are handled in the same way, the sound files have the same properties (sample rate etc.), and no uncommon use of scripts is apparent there. On my machine, the cutscene plays completely no matter what I do.
My savegames are usually not made after any of the spots people have trouble with, and I also do not always know which T2Fix version I was using when making these saves. I don't think such a savegame would be useful.
Can you upload a savegame from shortly before starting this cutscene? On the one hand, we could then check whether the savegame shows what went wrong, and on the other hand, we could try to continue your game past this scene, save again, and return that new savegame per upload to you.
Kubrick on 17/10/2023 at 04:09
Does anyone know where can I listen to or what the filename is for the piano background music of the first mission?
marbleman on 17/10/2023 at 09:27
snd/streets.ogg
FKenFord on 24/2/2024 at 03:22
I'm in a similar place. The keeper/Garrett cutscene was freezing after the line
"dispose of him in your usual fashion as well".I tried reapplying latest t2fix, as some have suggested and, using my save game, it did appear to fix this freeze. But after the keeper/Garrett cutscene, I was returned to the cathedral in a cutscene, which froze with me floating above the floor.
(Note: I hate to use the word "freeze", as the game itself is not locked up -- the cutscenes are just not progressing.)
I also modified cam_mod.ini with the suggested change (uber_mod_path supermod;.\OSM), with no change in behavior.
Thinking that I might need to completely restart, I un- and re-installed (via NewDarkLoader) and raced through to the cutscene... but this time I got stuck even earlier, upon returning to my apartment! Keeper Kennard said a little, then stopped. Cutscene is frozen.
BTW, "fast" quitting (CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+END) doesn't ever work -- second mission starts out "stuck" on a black screen.
So, I have given up!
I *love* this mission, but can't seem to finish it. Bummer. :(
Obviously, any further suggestions are most welcome. :)
Quote Posted by TaffedTooMuch
So I decided to replay this incredible mission, but it is sadly still bugged with NewDark.
In the White Cathedral, the cutscene freezes midway, the last thing happening is the keeper saying
"dispose of him in your usual fashion as well".Changing 2021 NVScript for 2022 version helped with some other scripts not working correctly, such as
mechanist not knocked out by the windowframe. But this thing hasn't changed even on replay with the new osm version. Other solutions above aren't working for me either. :confused:
I'm running on Windows 10 with TFix 1.27 and FMSel. My system is French which causes some bugs with keyboard binding as I discovered (qwerty keyboard is not read properly by the game). I wonder if it can be helped, or maybe someone can share their saves throughout both missions?
baeuchlein on 27/2/2024 at 14:50
After about one day of testing various things, I have not made much progress in this. For some unknown reason, "Broken Triad" often has problems with the scripts (at least NVScript.osm and script.osm; Thief2.log often confirms that one or both of these fail to load), but that is almost all I can say concerning this. Only the following new pieces of information came up:
With NewDarkLoader (instead of FMSel) on an old Windows 10 install, the scripts malfunctioned for me. Some, like the ones that write the names of plaques on screen, worked sometimes, and sometimes not; the version of the scripts seems relevant for this. The cutscene that usually plays when leaving Garrett's apartment for the first time and going around the next corner did not play. Removing the blanket over Sheila Jennings was sometimes not possible (the blanket did not light up). And so on, and so on... CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-END to start the second mission also did not help much, the symptoms were the same as FKenFord described: Black screen (except for health icons) & nothing happened even after 15 seconds.
The second mission starts with a "mini-cutscene", most likely using scripts again, so that's why CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-END in the first mission may not help sometimes.
With FMSel, everything worked - for me. But obviously not for everyone.
I don't see anything new here that will help to debug this problem.-sigh-
Stingm on 28/2/2024 at 01:38
Have you tried Angeloader? I never had an issue with it.
baeuchlein on 1/3/2024 at 01:11
I only tried AngelLoader for a short while for "Broken Triad". My aim was to recreate/reproduce a situation where I had problems with scripts, and then to analyze why these occurred. I had a hard time achieving that goal, but with NewDartkLoader (which FKenFord used, as far as I remember), I finally succeeded... sort of. But still, no usable new information resulted from that.-shrug- As you can see, I brought it all upon me by myself.:cheeky: Thanks for the advice, though.:)
I usually go with FMSel, by the way, which also usually gives me no trouble. The reason is that from 2019 to November of 2023, my thieving was done on a machine which could not run Windows 10 in a useful way, but could do it with Wine and Linux. Thief and Thief 2 ran with only some very tiny problems. It was easy to get FMSel running under these circumstances, but I could not solve problems preventing AngelLoader and NewDarkLoader from working. Currently, though, things are on the move again, since said machine went belly-up at the beginning of November 2023, and so I went back to an old but working other machine again - but that's another story...;)
Kin on 2/3/2024 at 04:58
Replayed the first mission but at the end the keeper in my appartment at some point he stops talking and nothing happens. Even ctrl+alt
+shift+end leads me to a black screen in the next mission with the health bar and light gem visible. I am loading with fmsel. Am I missing any scripts or something?
edit: ok I've read the previous page commnets and looks like it has not been solved yet.
Azaran on 29/4/2024 at 21:13
Quote Posted by Wallaby
Actually, I checked my
cam_mod.ini. and changed the line from
;uber_mod_path mods\UpToDateOSMs+MyGemMod to
uber_mod_path .\OSM, sorry if
I'm playing after a few years, and this didn't work for me. The Keeper just stays stuck there indefinitely
Azaran on 29/4/2024 at 21:21
Also, no subtitles
