Gray on 30/3/2019 at 18:58
When I say anger, I mean almost Guy Fawkes type anger. Things can go bad very quickly. I'm worried.
nickie on 30/3/2019 at 19:24
I'm with you on that. Most people I know think leaving is the best thing. I think they're wrong. But I agree I'd find it easier to accept with a second referendum resulting in a Leave majority.
Pyrian on 31/3/2019 at 07:46
Seems to me the proper thing to do is have a three-way referendum with preferential voting:
1) Leave with the negotiated deal
2) Leave with no deal
3) Stay
Majority-wins democratic processes just can't always cope with multiple-choice decisions.
ffox on 31/3/2019 at 09:47
I don't think you have enough "Leave" choices there - the negotiated deal will alienate the Irish. Perhaps you should add a customs union, but would the EU accept that? It would involve a long delay I reckon, so that is another choice. More than four choices would make it unwieldy.
And is it fair to have 3 Leave choices and only one remain? My brain hurts.
Pyrian on 31/3/2019 at 18:20
Quote Posted by ffox
I don't think you have enough "Leave" choices there...
Only concrete, immediately achievable options are included.
Quote Posted by ffox
...the negotiated deal will alienate the Irish. Perhaps you should add a customs union, but would the EU accept that?
The point - well,
one point - is to not have any "fantasy" or even unspecific choices. One problem with referendum in general is the public will frequently choose a pleasant fantasy over a hard reality. (Given the choice, the public will happily select lower taxes, lower deficits,
and higher spending.) If you have to have referendums at all, then let the people vote on what they'll actually get and not for a fantasy that nobody's going to be able to give them.
rachel on 31/3/2019 at 18:35
Thanks for the answers :thumb:
heywood on 1/4/2019 at 19:49
LOL. You can take it a bit further even:
Yo, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want
So tell me what you want, what you really really want
I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want
So tell me what you want, what you really really want
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really really really wanna zig-a-zag-ah
If you want my future, forget my past
If you wanna get with me, better make it fast
Now don't go wasting my precious time
Get your act together we could be just fine
Starker on 1/4/2019 at 21:24
So, finally, at last, the MPs got their act together to say with confidence that they don't know what is to follow and conclusively indicated that they don't really have any idea what they really really want by voting down all options once again.
Pyrian on 1/4/2019 at 22:17
Well, who couldn't have seen that coming?