Scots Taffer on 8/2/2008 at 05:43
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Quantum of SolaceYeah, not a lost Star Trek episode with Ensign Bond... but Bond 22, number 2 in the Daniel Craig reboot of the Bond franchise, one that I'm especially excited about.
Casino Royale was excellent, perhaps a touch too much poker-lingo for many audiences but I thought it was really good fun. I loved the edge Craig brought to the Bond, he's agile, lethal, a blunt instrument, but he also has that animal-like cunning, a low-level intelligence that helps him weasel in and out of situations.
Now aside from the name, I know next to nothing about this flick or what the relevance of the name is, but if that poster looks familiar it's because (as (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_of_Solace) Wikipedia reports) the movie takes place merely an hour after the events of Casino Royale... that would be an hour after (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5BC3-qwGM) this utterly fucking awesome scene.
But yeah, roll on November, awesome year for movies.
jtr7 on 8/2/2008 at 05:55
Having sworn I read that it was based on another Ian Fleming story of the same name, I found this redundant collection of confirmations (containing varying degrees of accuracy) at imdb:
The source story "Quantum of Solace" from which the film obtains its title is not actually considered a spy espionage story though there is mention of a mission, the story is an anecdote told to James Bond at a dinner party. This is therefore the first EON Productions James Bond movie to utilize a non-spy story as a source for a Bond movie.
The movie will be in major release in 2009 which is also 50th Anniversary Year of the film title's source short story "Quantum of Solace" by Ian Fleming, first published in 1959. The movie will also be in release during the 100th Anniversary Year of the birth of James Bond creator Ian Fleming.
First James Bond movie to take its title from an original Ian Fleming short story since The Living Daylights (1987), a gap of twenty-one years.
The Ian Fleming James Bond short story "Quantum of Solace" was an attempt by Fleming to write a more literature serious story somewhat in the vein of W. Somerset Maugham. As such, it is in keeping with the more serious tone and dimension of the EON Production James Bond series which was initiated with Casino Royale (2006).
The meaning of the film's title "Quantum of Solace" is a small degree of comfort that can exist between two people emotionally in a relationship. According to Ben Macintyre of Times Online, the Governor character in the Ian Fleming short story of the same name defines it as "... a precise figure defining the comfort, humanity and fellow feeling required between two people for love to survive. If the quantum of solace is nil, then love is dead."
The original Ian Fleming source short story "Quantum of Solace" was first published in Modern Woman magazine in November 1959.
The title "Quantum of Solace" is taken from the Ian Fleming short story of the same name in the book "For Your Eyes Only". This was the first collection of Fleming James Bond short stories and was first published on 11 April 1960. The collection was subtitled "Five Secret Occasions in the life of James Bond" and was the 8th James Bond book. It also included the short stories "The Hildebrand Rarity", "From A View To A Kill", "Risico" and "For Your Eyes Only".
"Quantum of Solace" is the third short story from Ian Fleming's "For Your Eyes Only" collection and it's the last short story from the book to be used in some way for a Bond movie. "For Your Eyes Only" and two other Fleming short stories were originally conceived in the 1950s as scripts for a never-produced James Bond TV series with CBS. "Quantum of Solace" was not one of the short stories conceived for television.
Will be released in the same year that celebrates the centenary of the birth of Ian Fleming, James Bond's creator. Fleming was born on 28 May 1908 and this film was originally scheduled to be released on 2 May 2008, a few weeks before the 100th Birthday on 28 May 2008. However, the release date has now been deferred until 7 November 2008 to allow more time to produce the movie.
In an interview with Jonathan Ross, Casino Royale (2006) director Martin Campbell hinted that this film would be a sort of follow on to Casino Royale (2006), stating that it would be part 2 of a 2-part story and thus expecting there to be a small a gap as possible between the release of the 2 films.
Gingerbread Man on 8/2/2008 at 06:29
I thought "Quantum of Solace" was about Bond at a dreadful dinner party with people he can't relate to nor stand until some Ambassador or Diplomat or something also at the party tells 007 this long story that turns out to be about the hostess.
It's a wonderful little exploration of how alienated and superior a man in James Bond's position must feel, but if I'm remembering the story right it's an utterly bizarre choice for a movie. "Quantum of Solace" is more Charlotte Bronte than Ian Fleming.
ps also "quantum of solace" is a dreadful and puerile string of words to make a witlessly pedantic and ultimately "ghey" title out of and may only have recently been dethroned by "the bedlam in goliath" but then the mars volta is a ridiculous excuse for a band anyway there I said it.
jtr7 on 8/2/2008 at 06:32
Yep. I went ahead and highlighted that bit of trivia above.
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this is where I first heard about it the movie:
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Gingerbread Man on 8/2/2008 at 06:38
To be fair, it's a remarkable and pretty eventful tale that Bond hears, but the only way I can see it done is in flashback, and necessarily without James Bond... so what you've got is Daniel Craig being paid for an afternoon of fill shots at the party and the rest of it having pretty much nothing to do with James Bond.
Like I say, it's bizarre. But intriguing as hell. It'd be interesting to see what happens if someone fundamentally and gigantically screws with the formula, turning Bond 22 into a character drama only peripherally involving 007 instead of the same old gadget, gimmick, and product-laden PG-13 action movies we've come to expect (except of course with Casino Royale, so that's an interesting facet as well)
Fafhrd on 8/2/2008 at 06:54
Apparently the film's not actually based on the short story, they just took the title. Film's plot is roughly "Bond hunts down the guy in charge of the organisation that blackmailed and essentially killed Vesper so he can find his...QUANTUM OF SOLACE"
Rug Burn Junky on 8/2/2008 at 07:20
Quote Posted by Gingerbread Man
It's a wonderful little exploration of how alienated and superior a man in James Bond's position must feel, but if I'm remembering the story right it's an utterly bizarre choice for a movie. "Quantum of Solace" is more Charlotte Bronte than Ian Fleming.
It's a SUSTAINED INTELLECTUAL EXPLORATION of James Bond!
(Fuck you, S_T ;))
jtr7 on 8/2/2008 at 07:24
@ Fafhrd: Ooo, that contradicts multiple sources, but isn't too far from the idea that the movie is mostly embellishment built upon the short story, or key elements of it. Where'd you hear that? Is it the latest revelation? :)
@ GBM: I know. I'm wondering how they're gonna do this, too. They're still giving Ian Fleming most of the writing credit, but it's really for a seed of an idea.
Aja on 8/2/2008 at 07:43
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
It's a SUSTAINED INTELLECTUAL EXPLORATION of James Bond!
yer damn right that's what it is
