Mr.Duck on 21/12/2007 at 18:38
Quote Posted by The_Raven
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Rachel ever displayed superhuman strength either.
Nope, she didn't, probably because she didn't have it. Being an experimental model, according to Tyrell, who was trying to make'em even more human (i.e. how the test -whosenameIforget- took 100+ questions to determine she was a replicant) by inserting fake memories so they could cushion their emotional responses that they eventually developed, possibly making'em as strong as normal humans and other human-level characteristics, instead of, for example, stronger (thus -not- making her inhumanly strong, etc).
Dunno why, but I -LOVED- Rachel's hairdo...so retro.
The_Raven on 21/12/2007 at 18:43
Exactly, so chances are that if Deckard is a replicant, he's probably the same model as Rachel.
Mr.Duck on 21/12/2007 at 18:49
*Ponders*
Now there's a thought, even though it seems that Deckard -surely- has been many years active (it's implied, mostly by his service in the police force, how he had acquaintances of many years with his ex-boss and such), although I can't say how long Rachel has been active (Rachel or Rachael?). Maybe Deckard was indeed another experimental unit, a prototype for Rachel.
:)
Heaven is a melancholic state inside of Deckard's apartment with soft and sad jazz playing in the background, with the city slightly sprinkled by a night shower....ah...this movie gets me all fuzzy, nostalgic, happy, sad, etc...ah...
ercles on 21/12/2007 at 20:08
Rachel never got in a fight, so how are we going to see her super human strength?
Thirith on 21/12/2007 at 20:39
I'm not going to add anything to the "Is Deckard a replicant?" discussion, because to me it's a bit of a red herring - whether he is or not, the replicants are human in most ways that matter, and definitely not subhuman in any way that justifies the way they're treated and used.
Something completely different: I recently watched the Final Cut on DVD, and while the film didn't affect me as much as it did 10-15 years ago, the image quality was absolutely stunning. I don't know how much they cleaned it up, but the mastering is magnificent. Wow.
Mr.Duck on 21/12/2007 at 22:49
Quote Posted by ercles
Rachel never got in a fight, so how are we going to see her super human strength?
True, she didn't get into a fight mano-a-mano, but I'm of the notion that she probably was still not a super replicant due to Tyrell's comment about making them more human, just a hunch (and Deckard, if he is a replicant, certainly didn't had superhuman strenght).
ZylonBane on 22/12/2007 at 00:47
Quote Posted by The_Raven
Exactly, so chances are that if Deckard is a replicant, he's probably the same model as Rachel.
Not all replicants of the same base class have the same strength and intelligence. The movie makes this quite clear.
/one basic pleasure model, please
jtr7 on 22/12/2007 at 01:05
Deckard's type was likely not meant to go up against the Nexus 6 types that were off-world doing the heavy work they were designed for. They escaped and came to Earth.
I can imagine the humans using types like Deckard's to do distasteful dirty-work. He does his job well, "retiring" types other than Nexus 6, and he still manages to take two of them out on his own--barely, and sloppily. He's a good little replicant. He just does his job, however grudgingly.
I can also imagine some of the humans getting a kick out of replicants killing replicants. I can imagine some humans feeling grateful that a human isn't faced with the task of "retiring" a replicant when many can seem so human.
Printer's Devil on 22/12/2007 at 03:34
Quote Posted by jtr7
I can also imagine some of the humans getting a kick out of replicants killing replicants. I can imagine some humans feeling grateful that a human isn't faced with the task of "retiring" a replicant when many can seem so human.
The explanation is likely far more practical--replicants are potentially more dangerous than any human, so while identifying them might be an acceptable risk, hunting them down might be considered suicidal (notice how Deckard never has backup). So the authorities use a replaceable attack dog instead--one just strong enough for the task and easily controlled.
There's a quick review on (
http://www.slate.com/id/2180354/nav/tap3/) Slate.
The_Raven on 22/12/2007 at 19:26
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There's a quick review on Slate.
You know, the criticism of the movie in that review is very true. Blade Runner is a movie where the characters are completely opaque, and the movie is either too overt or too subtle for its own good. This, I think, has more to do with the film noir influence than anything else. Honestly, I would probably say the exact same things about The Maltese Falcon; they're both great movies regardless.
