Bioshock doesn't have the same atmosphere as SSII

Harvester on 24/8/2007 at 22:26

Quote Posted by catbarf

I think the strange beeping techno music in SS1 really screws up the atmosphere, don't you?

You can turn it off, you know? But I don't like SS1's music much either, I was surprised at how much praise it gets over here. I don't dislike it enough to turn it off, but I don't think it's very good either. The only tune that I think is somewhat memorable is the Level 6 tune. I really prefer SS2's music by a long shot.

pnK on 24/8/2007 at 22:45

Quote Posted by catbarf

I think the strange beeping techno music in SS1 really screws up the atmosphere, don't you?

No, actually i think the music is really good and sounds very "mechanic" and fits the scenario.

/edit: I just compared the two endings of SS1 and SS2

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLMk1E41kE) System Shock 2 Ending
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DraXV_eKOls) System Shock 1 Ending

I think the music of SS1 just makes it more unique. Also, as i haven't played SS2 as often as SS1, how bad is the part of the ending where he says "nah" and Shodan screams ? I really do prefer the ending (well, and like mentioned, the overall game) of SS1 - including it's "strange beeping techno music" :)

I think the most memorable music pieces in gaming are also the ones that are most unique. I think of "a one winged angel" of the Final Fantasy 7 Soundtrack for some reason.

Well, yeah :I

catbarf on 25/8/2007 at 00:05

Well, the SS2 ending is love it or hate it. I love it. It's certainly different from the bland one-liners you hear from action movie stars, and it seems like something the character might actually say. I doubt he'd concoct some special line on the spot.

I like SS1. I just think that there are a few things that break the immersion, one of them being the music. Especially when I'm running around on Medical.

pnK on 25/8/2007 at 00:53

I was talking about the way he said it, not about what he said :P

Well i just saw a video on youtube

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xap7JLlROSQ) -> video

and i have to say the music sounds really bad in that video. If it sounds the same at your machine, no wonder you hate it :) I don't think the music is supposed to sound like that :P

I think it's more meant to sound like this

(http://208.49.149.120/files/jukebox/shock1/%5BGreg%20Lo%20Piccolo,%20Tim%20Ries%5D%20-%20Shock%201%20-%20Medical%20Suite%20(Mac%20Mix).mp3) another link *click*

Well anyway, maybe you just don't like it :)
I know this is a bit offtopic, because i am not talking about BioShock at all but could someone give me a good example of music from SS2 :P ?

Like i said, haven't played it very much and i don't have any music from the game in my head right now.

SubZero2040 on 25/8/2007 at 04:15

Quote Posted by pnK

Yeah well and SS2 doesn't have the same atmosphere as SS1, now what ?

I never played ss1 but i did try, just couldn't get it working. I can't even get SSII to work anymore.

So I don't care about SS1.

catbarf on 25/8/2007 at 14:51

Quote Posted by pnK

Yup, that first one is how it sounds. Is there something wrong with my PC?

By the way, I'm running around on Medical right now and I've got a few problems:

1. I always lose the cyberspace thing. I just don't seem to have enough time.

2. I don't know what I need to do or where to go.

3. How do I kill the freaking Hopper? All I have is a dartgun!

Oh well. I will persevere.

The Brain on 25/8/2007 at 15:42

Quote Posted by catbarf

Yup, that first one is how it sounds. Is there something wrong with my PC?

Are you using (http://www.strangebedfellows.de/index.php/topic,211.0.html) System Shock Portable?

Quote Posted by catbarf

By the way, I'm running around on Medical right now and I've got a few problems:

1. I always lose the cyberspace thing. I just don't seem to have enough time.

2. I don't know what I need to do or where to go.

3. How do I kill the freaking Hopper? All I have is a dartgun!

Oh well. I will persevere.

1. Be fast. Be patient. It takes time to find a way and what to do in cyberspace, so try again.

2. Read logs and emails.

3. You need either pistol with teflon bullets or Magpulse. To get Magpulse you need to open doors near cyberjack. This requires little visit in cyberspace. Pistol is in CPU-room.

heywood on 25/8/2007 at 16:10

Quote Posted by catbarf

2. I don't know what I need to do or where to go.

You'll come to appreciate that.

I love the way SS1 leaves it up to the player to figure out how to progress right from the beginning. All the information you need is there, you just have to explore, think, try.

I'm starting to get tired of playing games where an omniscient narrator character spoon feeds the game to you one little task at a time.

EvaUnit02 on 25/8/2007 at 16:11

Quote Posted by Martin Karne

We face the same problem with Deus Ex I and II, only that II never got any SDK at all.

I'm kinda sad that the DX1 HDTP development has hit a brickwall, they can't animate the new high poly models that they created. The only hope rests on the success of that project working to port the game to the UT2k3 engine.

catbarf on 26/8/2007 at 01:42

Quote Posted by The Brain

Are you using (http://www.strangebedfellows.de/index.php/topic,211.0.html) System Shock Portable?

Yes.

Quote Posted by The Brain

1. Be fast. Be patient. It takes time to find a way and what to do in cyberspace, so try again.

Hmm. I thought you get less and less time each time you fail in cyberspace? I might need to restart.

Quote Posted by The Brain

2. Read logs and emails.

I can't find anywhere on Medical where I feel safe enough to read them...

Quote Posted by The Brain

3. You need either pistol with teflon bullets or Magpulse. To get Magpulse you need to open doors near cyberjack. This requires little visit in cyberspace. Pistol is in CPU-room.

Sounds good. Can't you also get a magnum if you blow up all the cameras?

And is it just me, or do the enemies do a LOT of damage? I mean, I got killed by a Cyborg Warrior on the first level- how the hell will I deal with Level 9?