SD on 18/9/2006 at 12:49
Quote Posted by Phydeaux
Maybe it'll help with the chav problem.
The thing is, most of the "chav problem" is not based in the city centres, which are already heavily policed - it's in the residential areas. When my friend was put in intensive care last week, it was a gang of hoodies in a relatively quiet suburb who did it. And we can't very well put cameras EVERYWHERE can we? So I'd venture that this is intended to give the illusion that people are under constant surveillance, rather than actually being a particularly effective anti-crime measure.
Uncia on 18/9/2006 at 13:01
Yes, but it's being used to control those out-of-control cyclists, so it's all good.
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The scheme has been introduced by Middlesbrough mayor Ray Mallon, a former police superintendent who was dubbed Robocop for pioneering the zero-tolerance approach to crime.This man deserves an encounter with several large fellows in a dark alley. Points will be substracted for every tooth he has remaining after.
Convict on 18/9/2006 at 13:09
Are hoodies the same as chavs?
Uncia on 18/9/2006 at 13:11
I'm told that particular media outlet is not exactly the straightest dope evar though. Any secondary sources?
R Soul on 18/9/2006 at 13:12
The shouting camera is no substitute for police officers.
In the long-run, it will only work against people who consent to being policed.
Fingernail on 18/9/2006 at 13:17
The Daily Mail's editorial purpose, it's very raison d'etre, is to OUTRAGE.
You read it, you find yourself OUTRAGED.
You are OUTRAGED about the state of the nation, the government, the world, political correctness and OH GOD IT'S ALL GOING TO THE DOGS, THIS WOULD'VE NEVER HAPPENED UNDER THATCHER. In this case, it's almost LOOK WHAT THINGS HAVE COME TO, TO WHAT WE'VE HAD TO RESORT mixed in with a flavour of CAMERAS ARE NO SUBSTITUTE FOR A FIRM HAND DURING CHILDHOOD.
People love this, that's why it's so successful. It gives you something to get your blood up about, whether or not you agree.
But the fact that that's what they're consciously trying to do seems to have worried away it's actual immediacy, for me at least.
SD on 18/9/2006 at 13:20
Quote Posted by Convict
Are hoodies the same as chavs?
Not really. That is, not all chavs are hoodies, although hoodies are probably considered part of the chavvy underclass.
Hoodies are just gangs of unruly kids who hang around off licences pestering you to buy them cheap cider. They get the name "hoodies" because they wear hooded clothing (to protect their identities when they beat people up/go thieving/etc).
SubJeff on 18/9/2006 at 17:54
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
When my friend was put in intensive care last week, it was a gang of hoodies in a relatively quiet suburb who did it.
Really? Intensive care and not just the hospital? That is some serious badness going on up there. Where was this? Any suspects at the moment?
David on 18/9/2006 at 18:53
Quote Posted by Fingernail
The Daily Mail's editorial purpose, it's very raison d'etre, is to OUTRAGE.
And secondly to obsess over Diana, but not as much as the (
http://www.bigdaddymerk.co.uk/mailwatchnew/?cat=8) Daily Express
