Bible, a source of ethical values? (Warning, religious thoughts!)

jtr7 on 26/1/2008 at 03:32

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I heard one time there was this guy named Elijah and some kids were calling him baldhead and laughing at him and so God sent some bears to devour the children confirm / deny?

Kinda. It was Elisha, actually, after Elijah'd gone up to heaven. Two momma bears versus forty-two out of God-only-knows how many disrespectful kidlings. No deaths or feasting reported. See if they ever collect in throngs to make fun of a man's shiny head again.

2Ki 2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
25 And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.

But yeah. We know what you mean.:erg:

The word the translators chose "little" [children] from means "diminutive, literally (in quantity, size or number) or figuratively (in age or importance):--least, less(-er), little (one), small(-est, one, quantity, thing), young(-er, -est)."
The word the translators chose "children" from means "babe, boy, child, damsel (from the margin), lad, servant, young (man)."

Of course, later translations chose "youths". Yeah, they were young, but they were punks! And pretty short for their age! Their mouths were so rotten they thoroughly deserved to have their shit tore up!

BrokenArts on 26/1/2008 at 03:32

I'm heading down to the bear pits, who wants to go. ......ohhhhhh, I'm gonna burn in hell for that.

Gingerbread Man on 26/1/2008 at 04:30

Also heard that it is permissable to feed roadkill to a foreigner confirm / deny?

jtr7 on 26/1/2008 at 04:54

@ BA: What the taff?:laff:

Not killed and left for dead, but still:
De 14:21 Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God.

But I have to wonder if people just frikkin' ate anything available, in those days, if they didn't have strict rules built on strong beliefs. This doesn't say it's inedible, only that GOD didn't want His People to eat it.:eww:

Gingerbread Man on 26/1/2008 at 05:27

Close. It's actually Ma. 5 V. 26-28

Also heard that if two men are fighting and the wife of one man tries to break it up by grasping her husband's opponent's nutsack that she shall have her hand cut off confirm / deny?

Gorgonseye on 26/1/2008 at 06:07

Oh god just close the thread instead.

jtr7 on 26/1/2008 at 06:14

Oh yeah, okay. I know the laws are repeated in different books. I only quoted the first instance I found. I was gonna add, for those who wrestle enough with modern English, let alone old-school English translations of even older languages:

The verse doesn't say whether or not the foreigner should be lied to about the source of the meat, or if it's sold or given whole or as ultra-thin deli slices. Being that there weren't muckrakers as we know them, or foreigner meat inspectors, or health and safety standards, microscopes, Pasteur-types, etc., back then--that we know of or much about--we can't say how the foreigners felt about this. It's safe to say a lot of meat was consumed under false pretenses, much like today, but I'll bet many foreigners were glad to take the meat instead of letting it COMPLETELY go to waste. Sheesh, my own mother won't throw away cold-cuts that have started to get slimey and smell sour without waiting a couple more days. :( I can't abide that crap.

As for nad-grabbin' hand-hackin'. Yep. Frikkin' harsh, I agree. Let no woman touch a man's scrote, that ain't her husbands, 'cause then she's crossed a sacred line, even if it was only meant to sway the argument favorably to her husband's side.

Coincidentally, I was just wondering when this one would be brought up.:erm:

SD on 26/1/2008 at 10:59

Quote Posted by Peanuckle

As for those pseudo-Christians who go picketing funerals, they have obviously forgotten one of the most important lessons of the Bible: Judge not, lest ye be judged.

But they've obviously remembered another important lesson - you know, the one about homosexuality being an abomination and that homosexuals need to be put to death.

That's the thing about the Bible: if you're upholding one of its rules, you're almost certainly breaking another.

fett on 26/1/2008 at 14:32

SD, sometimes your viewpoint is just so clean and...simple. Yeah, *simple* is the word I'm looking for.

catbarf on 26/1/2008 at 14:34

Quote Posted by SD

and that homosexuals need to be put to death.

See, this is what I don't understand. The Bible says homosexuals should be put to death. It also says a son who disrespects their parents should be put to death. A girl found to not be a virgin on her wedding day must be immediately put to death. If you find a non-believer in a city, you must put them to death as well as every other person in the city and then burn all their possessions and never rebuild the city. And yet, you only see people taking one of those lessons literally.