Being immigrated in France what can happen to me if Marine Le Pen wins the elections - by Cardia
rachel on 8/5/2017 at 02:35
What didn't get in your thick head is that it wasn't about "the joos" as you so delicately put it, but about unbridled Big Finance and the disasters it causes all around us. Grow up.
Cardia on 8/5/2017 at 07:24
Quote Posted by skacky
Very classy. Where has Briareos said he loved Trump? I hate Macron too, did I love Le Pen then?
Pro-tip: I didn't.
I didn't say he loves Trump, i said probably.
Thirith on 8/5/2017 at 07:34
Quote Posted by Yakoob
How is it that the choices recently boil down to lesser od the two evils? Isn't the whole point of democracy to give rise to the best candidate not the least bad?
Ah right, "democracy," i forgot...
I don't think democracy has to boil down to binary choices (at least not in all cases), and IMO binary choices in and of themselves are a part of the problem. I very much prefer systems like consociationalism, and they are no less democratic.
Cardia on 8/5/2017 at 07:36
Honestly i don't what's wrong with Macron, though my choice would have been Benoit Hamon on the first round if i could vote, but never Mélenchon who wanted the France out of the EU, or Le Pen who clearly is even worst than Mélechon.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/791408/French-election-European-Union-nightmare-two-candidates-want-Frexit) http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/791408/French-election-European-Union-nightmare-two-candidates-want-Frexit
whatever happened in France yesterday comparing to USA and UK is way more acceptable, its in fact good.
Thor on 8/5/2017 at 08:18
Quote Posted by faetal
Thor - neither. Also, I'm tired of political discourse being on a 1-dimensional spectrum.
Hooo nice. Finally.
So some well-rounded guy won or what? Is this person having a grasp for reality (understands things like mass immigration being a real problem in the real world) and empathy for an opposing opinion (since it's not left) while also isn't stubbornly set in his ways and over-the-top against change (since he's not right)?
Starker on 8/5/2017 at 08:36
According to the official results, Le Pen got even less votes than there were abstentions: (
http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html)
Though Macron has no cause for celebration either, as the high number of abstentions is a statement in and of itself. And to add insult to injury, this is coupled with a low voter turnout.
nickie on 8/5/2017 at 08:41
If you're going to read the Express, cardia, you might want to have a quick look (
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-express/) here. I've not seen the site before but it seems quite accurate about British newspapers.
Could someone ask Macron not to do that 'hand over heart' thing?
skacky on 8/5/2017 at 11:24
Quote Posted by SD
This is why I love the far left. A complete and utter lack of self-awareness.
You know the definition of insanity is doing a thing over and over again and expecting different results. One wonders how many times Marxism has to fail before its adherents go and do something more productive with their lives.
No, I said you are an idiot because you implied I was somehow anti-semitic when I said absolutely zilch about the Jews, just stated the fact that Macron was a Rothschild banker before he started his political gig. And yes, you are an idiot, and potentially a racist since you made that comparison. All bankers are Jews according to you, am I right?
SD on 8/5/2017 at 12:10
Quote Posted by raph
What didn't get in your thick head is that it wasn't about "the joos" as you so delicately put it, but about unbridled Big Finance and the disasters it causes all around us. Grow up.
Thanks, but I wasn't born yesterday. I know a dog whistle when I see one, and the Rothschild conspiracy theories that the far left subscribe to are little more than reheated anti-semitic tropes.
Quote Posted by skacky
No, I said you are an idiot because you implied I was somehow anti-semitic when I said absolutely zilch about the Jews, just stated the fact that Macron was a Rothschild banker before he started his political gig. And yes, you are an idiot, and potentially a racist since you made that comparison. All bankers are Jews according to you, am I right?
See above. As for the rest of it, you are getting even funnier, which I didn't think possible.
demagogue on 8/5/2017 at 13:03
"Rothschild banker" is pretty blatant antisemetic-speak whether you intended it or not. Use it if you want to talk like Nazis actually talk, I guess. You know now, so you don't have an excuse.
Any resentment based political ideology is bound to be bullshit anyway. Any policy involves literally 1000s of pages of code, legislative history, case law, commentaries. Anybody that reduces that to "the 1%" or "neoliberalism" is making shit up to give themselves a target to be angry at because people don't know how to be angry at 1000s of pages of dense legalese.
