Being immigrated in France what can happen to me if Marine Le Pen wins the elections - by Cardia
SD on 25/4/2017 at 20:00
Quote Posted by Harvester
For example, the 32 hour workweek was described as an actual proposition of Mélenchon.
The only reasonable thing one could do with the 35 hour week would be to abolish it altogether. To even consider reducing it further is utterly preposterous.
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Well, officially you all still are, and may yet still be, depending on who does what when and why.
Not a chance. The Tories are about to win a landslide majority with a manifesto promise to exit not just the EU, but the single market altogether. That ship is sailing over the horizon.
Renzatic on 25/4/2017 at 20:38
Yeah, I guess you're all fucked.
But don't worry, I'll send you letters from the first world on occasion, talking about how great everything is.
...at least until we do the same thing, opening up the playing field for a Chinese century. Pax Zhong-Guo, here we come!
SD on 26/4/2017 at 00:05
Quote Posted by Renzatic
But don't worry, I'll send you letters from the first world on occasion, talking about how great everything is.
Don't bother, we'll probably have to pay import duty on them.
rachel on 26/4/2017 at 10:46
Quote Posted by Harvester
The Dutch news doesn't tell me everything.
That's probably the most important lesson of these past election years. Media can't be trusted in isolation and you have to work to get good info, especially on these subjects. Obviously I don't include fake news and shit like that, but I now go to a much larger range of news channels and papers than before, including outside my political bubble, and it was very enlightening to see the way candidates were favored over others and the subtleties of the mechanics of propaganda.
Quote Posted by Cardia
I am in favor for a Federal Europe, united we're stronger and happier.
Me too, but before we can do that people need to realise the EU we've been sold for 70 years has nothing to do with such a vision.
SD on 26/4/2017 at 12:29
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We all know where unpopular import duties lead.
Ha. The British are too inert to do anything about that.
At the moment, anything I buy from outside the EU worth more than £12 attracts 20% import VAT, and - wait for it - an £8 Royal Mail "handling charge".
So if I buy something marked on the customs form at a value of £20, it costs me a further £12, and that's before you factor in shipping costs.
Now that we're leaving the EU, I can look forward to being extorted on things I buy from the continent in this manner too.
It is thievery, pure and simple.
demagogue on 26/4/2017 at 13:49
Is it really thievery when the party losing the cash not only gives their blessing to the purported thieves, but actually insists they behave like that and don't allow them to act otherwise? Remember some of those sellers may be terrorists. Or Poles. Or terrorist Poles. (You gotta watch out for the ones obsessed with molotov cocktails.)
Right, right, French bread. Uh. Speaking of terrorism, is there a chance any surprise even could bump the election to LePen? Both Trump & Brexit benefited from a last minute BS bump, Trump with the Comey statement (investigating Hillary) and Brexit with the freed up money for the NHS business.
Briareos H on 26/4/2017 at 14:07
Certainly but I think that a nice scandal over a well-loved politician or an UE entity would work even better.
caffeinatedzombeh on 26/4/2017 at 16:49
Quote Posted by SD
It is thievery, pure and simple.
The £8 or the VAT?
At the moment if you buy something from within the EU you have to pay whatever the VAT is in the country it was sold from, there's no paperwork to fill in and you don't have to pay any customs processing charge to the courier.
So depending on what you're buying, where from and what it costs you may actually pay *less* tax on it if it comes from outside the customs union depending on whether the £8 royal mail charge is more or less than the difference in VAT.
If the VAT bothers you that much you can always get the sender to fill in the CN23 incorrectly, it's the receiver's responsibility to make sure it's correct...
heywood on 26/4/2017 at 17:45
SD - Funny you mention that since there’s a debate going on right now about whether the US should apply a 20% border adjustment tax combined with a corporate tax rate reduction to 20%, as a way to normalize taxes paid by US companies importing and exporting to/from the EU and European companies importing and exporting to/from the US, without the US adopting a VAT.
One thing I never understood about the TTIP negotiations was how the incentives and disincentives resulting from different tax policies could be left off the table.
