metal dawn on 24/6/2006 at 01:44
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
Congratulations on missing the entire point of ethical vegetarianism.
[maybe I should put tacky-ass tags like this so people won't overreact when I intentionally exaggerate whaddaya think?]Does that sound like a plan to you?
[/maybe I should put tacky-ass tags like this so people won't overreact when I intentionally exaggerate whaddaya think?]Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
I think you're full of shit! Well, no, actually, I
know that.
Good Epic point.
Briareos H on 24/6/2006 at 02:32
Totally disappointed by the utter lack of Achewood content ITT.
Malygris on 24/6/2006 at 03:05
MY MEAT COMES FROM DEAD ANIMALS
Fringe on 24/6/2006 at 03:11
So this thread is where the dead horse of the "on a plane" joke officially becomes a skeleton.
Aerothorn on 24/6/2006 at 03:34
William Salenten (sp) of Slate wrote an article on just this, found at (
http://www.slate.com/id/2142547/) http://www.slate.com/id/2142547/.
Sounded like a great idea - if people can do this, there will be no reason to slaughter animals in developed countries. More interesting, though, were two comments in The Fray:
"Growing mammalian cells requires a nutritious medium that includes, among other things, 10% FETAL BOVINE SERUM or FETAL CALF SERUM. Yes, that's serum taken from the fetuses of cows. No, it's not a non-invasive process. Often it is taken from fetuses discovered inside a cow after it's been butchered for meat at a slaughterhouse.
The reason fetal serum is used is that it contains a complex mixture of proteins, hormones, buffers, and other nutrients that have been shown to be necessary for cells to grow in culture. [...]
Now, I also work with mammalian cells myself, and I feel (on good days, when experiments are working) that my research justifies the animal contribution. I'm not saying that all research requiring FBS/FCS should be shut down because it's unethical. I'm just saying that if you think that growing meat somehow obviates the need to kill animals, think again. Meat doesn't come from nowhere--it comes from meat."
Now, I suspect this guy may be wrong, because if this is true it would completely defeat the point of growing meat in test tubes. But if he's right, well, there you go.
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If eating "grown" meat is fine, and really different from eating "natural" meat, then why stop at mere animals? Would it be unethical to eat, say, a human heart as long as the heart was grown in a lab and was never part of a human? Maybe human thigh will turn out to be tastier than top sirloin. And how nutritious might baby brains be? Will we at least be able to enjoy such common pleasures as dog and horse without the barking and whinnying of 'animal lovers'?
If we can create 'fine tuned' manufactured foods then we could mass produce celebrities for consumption in another way. "Give me a pound of Oprah and some Paris Hilton for desert..." If you were a particularly delicious person you could get rich on the property rights to your own flesh. "
Sounds like a great idea to me:)
Tocky on 24/6/2006 at 04:57
Eat me. It's been my slogan for years. I think I'll pass on the skank Hilton on rye though.
Still better than a 50 year incubation for mad cow disease. Thanks England.
Renzatic on 24/6/2006 at 05:03
Considering I can't stand when people turn something as basic as food into a heated political political discussion involving chest beating, name calling, and temper tantrums, I'll just say this:
I don't care where it comes from. If it tastes good, I'll eat it.
Azal on 24/6/2006 at 05:47
Quote Posted by Aerothorn
William Salenten (sp) of Slate wrote an article on just If eating "grown" meat is fine, and really different from eating "natural" meat, then why stop at mere animals? Would it be unethical to eat, say, a human heart as long as the heart was grown in a lab and was never part of a human? Maybe human thigh will turn out to be tastier than top sirloin. And how nutritious might baby brains be? Will we at least be able to enjoy such common pleasures as dog and horse without the barking and whinnying of 'animal lovers'?
Who's for a trip down to the Long Pig for some takeaway?
Fringe on 24/6/2006 at 06:06
Quote Posted by Renzatic
I don't care where it comes from. If it tastes good, I'll eat it.
You'll eat human child?
Ko0K on 24/6/2006 at 06:47
I personally don't think this will happen in a foreseeable future, but from a productivity standpoint it may be worthwhile, provided we find a new use for the excess of corn. I wonder whatever happened to the idea of using corn for bio-diesel.