rachel on 2/6/2008 at 12:05
I really meant the first two... The one with Cally was the beginning of things being much better, I absolutely loved that episode.
(Not because I didn't like her, mind you, contrary to a lot of posts I've seen. There seemed to be a lot of Cally-hate at the time... Me, I was disappointed to see her go, but the way it was handled was brilliant.)
There is a problem with Kara being the final one, in that she has a completely different prophecy to deal with. If I had to guess between only her and Baltar, I'd go with Baltar as he's very much the one in need of redemption.
That said I still believe it's neither of them. For different reasons both choices would feel like a cop out to me, there's been too much build up for it to be one of those two. I think (and hope) the revelation of the final Cylon will be a complete surprise.
As far as I know nothing about Earth is really confirmed.
Dia on 2/6/2008 at 14:27
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I think it's hilarious how Dee's only purpose in BSG has been to be a romantic interest. I don't think she's had more than half a minute screentime since breaking up with Lee.
I was wondering about the lack of Dee during this last episode as well. Hell, did they write her out of the script entirely? Hope not; I rather liked her character. And what happened to Gaeta; is he even still alive?
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Also, it's fairly confirmed there are Cylons on earth, right? I kind of hope that there are both cylons and humans there living in harmony somehow.
I don't recall hearing anything that actually confirmed that. Seems to me that the Cylons are still looking for Earth just as frantically as the humans.
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That said I still believe it's neither of them. For different reasons both choices would feel like a cop out to me, there's been too much build up for it to be one of those two. I think (and hope) the revelation of the final Cylon will be a complete surprise.
You obviously didn't catch the previews for next week's episode raph. Of course, the writers could've been just throwing us another curve ball, but in the previews they show
D'Anna talking to another D'Anna and she says something cryptic about her model being one of the Five. Now THAT certainly wouldn't bode well, since D'Anna was one of the major proponents for the total genocide of the humans from the beginning. If it proves to be true
(that D'Anna is the last one of the final Five), I'm going to be seriously disappointed. I mean seriously.
God help everyone now that Saul is in charge of Galactica.
That recent development kind of scares the hell outta me.
Lee Adama as President? Figures. Can't wait to see how he uses his presidential powers for his own ends. Whatever those may be. As I said before, Lee's character was infinitely more interesting as a CAG/pilot. It's almost as though the writers couldn't quite figure out what to do with him, so just made him a politician. Boring.
Have to admit I got a little misty-eyed towards the end when Bill Adama asks Kara, 'So what do you hear, Starbuck?' Talk about coming full circle.
I'm also very curious to see where the writers are going to take the sub-plot of the now-sentient Toaster-jobs. I'm getting a feeling that the Skinjobs & humans are going to end up banding together (albeit under a very uneasy truce) against the metal-munchers. Could be interesting, no?
rachel on 2/6/2008 at 14:42
Stay away from me! I avoid previews like the plague! ;)
Dia on 2/6/2008 at 14:55
I know; ergo the spoilers. ;)
D'Juhn Keep on 2/6/2008 at 22:02
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And what happened to Gaeta; is he even still alive?
Well, Gaeta's had quite a bit of time, what with losing his leg, being on the Demetrius, testifying against Baltar and the rest.
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I don't recall hearing anything that actually confirmed that. Seems to me that the Cylons are still looking for Earth just as frantically as the humans.
For this I'm mainly going by what the Hybrid said: "the missing 3 will give you the 5 who have come from the home of the 13th" which seems pretty unambiguous to me that the final 5 have come from earth and probably subconsciously know the way there. And there was something said when they were still being activated by their song. One of them mentioned it was like something he'd heard from his childhood. I know the use of a song from our real world as a trigger for cylon sleeper agents has caused a bit of consternation but I can't help but wonder if it was a deliberate thing as another hint that the final 5 have come from earth.
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God help everyone now that Saul is in charge of Galactica.
That recent development kind of scares the hell outta me.
Haha, yeah. It was bad enough when he took over the last time! Which is very fresh in my mind as I watched it about a week ago! And that was before knowing he's actually a cylon. And impregnated another cylon. Damn.
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I'm also very curious to see where the writers are going to take the sub-plot of the now-sentient Toaster-jobs. I'm getting a feeling that the Skinjobs & humans are going to end up banding together (albeit under a very uneasy truce) against the metal-munchers. Could be interesting, no?
I totally agree. It reminds me a lot of the most recent book in the A Song of Ice and Fire series, A Feast for Crows:
Cersei allowing the militant orders of the church to reform, a move that seems necessary in the short term but could have disastrous consequences in the long run. I don't know if it would end up as an alliance but I definitely think that they might form a third faction.
Again, this might tie into a repeating destiny. Humans give sentience to cylons, skinjobs give sentience to toasters.
rachel on 2/6/2008 at 22:05
Yes, that's in tune with the cyclical approach of the story, "All this happened before, and it will happen again". And the humans of the Colonies are "just" what's left of the Cylons from the last time.
Dia on 3/6/2008 at 14:39
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Haha, yeah. It was bad enough when he took over the last time!
I definitely got a kick out of Saul's expression when Adama says that Saul isn't the man he used to be; that in Adama's opinion Saul has discovered a lot about himself lately.
Saul's expression (as he had his back turned to Adama) was absolutely priceless!
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Again, this might tie into a repeating destiny. Humans give sentience to cylons, skinjobs give sentience to toasters.
...and the toasters stage a rebellion against their makers and their maker's makers in the process. Yeah, that'd be in keeping with "All this happened before, and it will happen again" as raph quoted.
ZylonBane on 3/6/2008 at 14:58
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Again, this might tie into a repeating destiny. Humans give sentience to cylons, skinjobs give sentience to toasters.
Yeah... except that the humanoid Cylons didn't create the toasters and give them sentience. Humans did. Hence the original Cylon rebellion, remember?
rachel on 3/6/2008 at 15:05
Well it's also obvious that at some point the skinjobs took away that sentience, hence the current SNAFU
ZylonBane on 3/6/2008 at 17:22
Obviously. Which must have been quite a trick, since apparently the Centurions (or some yet-to-be-revealed superior Cylon machine intelligence) created the humanoid Cylons in the first place.
