rachel on 27/4/2008 at 15:24
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Good thing I don't own a gun, because my TV would have a few bullet holes in it after Baltar's last monologue. The soldier should have just shot the slimy worm and put him out of our misery. I don't care if Baltar's followers ended up turning him into a martyr; just get rid of him ffs! I am seriously sick-to-death of Baltar and his fragmented psyche. If the writers make Baltar the #1 Cylon I hope they're prepared to get a lot of hate-mail.
Actually this might be the "escape velocity" of the title. Baltar seems to have found a way to deal with his guilt and is starting to grow as a major religious figure... I wouldn't be surprised if there's a cylon-style secession in the rag tag fleet before long between Baltarians and old-school colonials.
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And that Tori's the next one on my list. Talk about being on a power-trip; I get a distinctly uneasy feeling when she starts going on about the 'things we could do'. More scary stuff.
Agreed. She embraces her newfound cylon identity with way too much enthusiasm...
Also, why the heck was Tigh wearing Admiral insignia? He's still a Colonel as far as I know...
Dia on 27/4/2008 at 19:50
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Also, why the heck was Tigh wearing Admiral insignia? He's still a Colonel as far as I know...
Hadn't noticed that. Someone in Wardrobe goofed up & someone in Continuity didn't pick up on it?
Fafhrd on 27/4/2008 at 22:10
I just looked at all his scenes in this episode, and he's not wearing Admiral's bars in any of them.
rachel on 28/4/2008 at 08:17
The pins on his collar when he's with
Six Chief Tyrol are Admiral ones, they have the full bars on the sides. But yeah it's probably a goof anyway, it doesn't make sense.
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Actually this might be the "escape velocity" of the title. Baltar seems to have found a way to deal with his guilt and is starting to grow as a major religious figure...
That's one of my major issues with the guy; he always weasels his way out of his own nasty predicaments and it's the innocent people who end up getting hurt. The writers have done that one to death as well. I keep hoping that as more and more people realize the truth about Baltar that one of them will have the stones to just kill him so no one else gets hurt.
I was impressed that Lee Adama stayed to hear what Baltar was preaching; like he wanted to know what Baltar's angle was
this time. But I'm still fed up with Lee's dogged Dudley-DoRight-attitude and how he just seems to be becoming more and more idealistic with every episode. The guy just doesn't seem to care about repercussions, just upholding the law to the letter. At least Roslyn is able to see through all of Baltar's smoke screens and knows him for the dangerous coward he really is. I doubt that the series will have the time to make him Pres after Roslyn dies, but that would be in keeping with how formulaic the writers are lately.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there's a cylon-style secession in the rag tag fleet before long between Baltarians and old-school colonials.
I think it'll get pretty bloody before that happens; to the point that the Pres & Adm. Adama will end up taking seriously drastic measures (finally! If someone can put a muzzle on Lee before he can stop it, that is.) against Baltar. It doesn't help Baltar that he & his cult are still aboard the Galactica and the Adama/Roslyn team have all the serious firepower on their side. Afterall, if you cut off the head of the snake, the rest of it is rendered powerless. At least in real life.
fett on 28/4/2008 at 12:27
I think Baltar actually said, "How can we love one another, if we can't love ourselves."
Listen to me: a group of writers sat in a room together and one of them suggested that line. No one protested. It was even proposed that it be the FINAL line in the episode. Did you read the line? Here it is one more time:
"How can we love one another, if we can't love ourselves."
I have the sinking feeling I've just wasted roughly 70+ hours of my life. :weird:
Thirith on 28/4/2008 at 12:51
Why? It sounds like a typical Baltar line - great for people to project all sorts of depth into (Baltar is a perfect projection pane), but basically it's fortune cookie silliness. Very few people in the series see Baltar as the sad little bastard he is, but I've known enough people who can coast on what others want to see in them to find him a believable character.
Edit: Especially thinking back to season 1 where the Cylons thought that they could only procreate if they had love (now *that* was cheesy and horrible!), that line you quoted doesn't strike me as that bad.
Dia on 29/4/2008 at 10:23
Sorry; I don't actually remember hearing that line since my brain shut off 20 seconds into Baltar's monologue.
And I was busy at the time taking aim at his forehead with my imaginary gun.
Thirith on 29/4/2008 at 10:45
As I probably mentioned before: I enjoy Baltar as a character, although I obviously don't like him. I found him most annoying in season 1, because there are only so many embarrassing scenes of people coming in to catch him having imaginary sex with imaginary Six before you wish him out of the airlock. However, I like where they've taken him since season 2, and I definitely enjoyed the New Caprica scenes with him. (And for the record, I thought his "Butterfingers!" line to Gaeta in "Crossroads pt. 2" was priceless. :D)
DaBeast on 29/4/2008 at 14:34
Baltar seems like a wasted character to me, very few scenes of his that I liked.
The but where he was locked up and was explaining that he came from a rough area (see planet) growing up and showed how he changed his accent to appear more acceptable to his peers etc. That was a good scene with decent character development. Everything since then pisses on that in favour of making a cliff hanger or something.
I'm going to predict that somehow he gets back with w/e cylon group that survives their little civil war thing and becomes their leader like the original series.
