icemann on 5/4/2008 at 04:26
How long now till the new series starts?
The_Raven on 5/4/2008 at 04:35
I've already seen the premiere, I don't know about other timezones or territories. The space battle at the start was great, but the rest of it wasn't too bad. Probably my major complaint has to do with where they decided to end with a "to be continued." Not only was it obvious how things would turn out, they showed that it would be the case in the previews a few seconds later.
mrPither on 5/4/2008 at 11:22
The composer Bear McCreary explained some of the backround of "All Along the Watchtower" in BSG in his blog:
"I happened to catch Ron Moore in the hallway at Universal and, in a brief conversation, got everything I needed to know. I learned that the idea was not that Bob Dylan necessarily exists in the characters’ universe, but that an artist on one of the colonies may have recorded a song with the exact same melody and lyrics. Perhaps this unknown performer and Dylan pulled inspiration from a common, ethereal source. Therefore, I was told to make no musical references to any “Earthly” versions, Hendrix, Dylan or any others. The arrangement needed to sound like a pop song that belonged in the Galactica universe, not our own."
(
http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/?p=164#more-164)
Spoiler warning for those who click the link.
The_Raven on 5/4/2008 at 16:02
I've heard that one before, and it has its own problems. They're essentially saying that Bob Dylan is so great that he pulled his melody and lyrics from the very fabric of the humanity itself, and that all the other stuff from our society that appears in the Battlestar remake -24 hour clocks, phones, humvees, guns, uniforms, etc...- are pulled in the same way. :rolleyes:
Sulphur on 5/4/2008 at 16:07
Eh?
How can you say it's a completely different universe when it's quite obviously the same, only in the far-flung future? After all, everybody's after this mythical planet called 'Earth'.
jtr7 on 5/4/2008 at 23:07
Unless time-travel's involved, the Dylan song makes it the far future. Otherwise, since the original series made it about leading up to our present, I'm wondering how they're going to approach it this time. The colonies had left Earth millenia ago, and were on their way back to this world of their origin. I hope it's not all just a metaphor this time.
The_Raven on 5/4/2008 at 23:23
Eh?
The show had already established that the human race didn't start on Earth, but Kobol. The 13th colony from Kobol settled on Earth, but it has yet to be revealed what kind of time frame we are talking about here. It could be the far future, or it could be the past from our perspective. The whole point was that the 13th tribe and the other 12 completely diverged and developed differently. Also, don't forget that the whole Battlestar concept is just a sci-fi spin on Mormon mythology.
EDIT: I don't suppose you think that Star Wars is set in the future as well?
Fafhrd on 6/4/2008 at 01:26
At the same time there's the whole "This has all happened before, it will all happen again" part of their holy text. It's entirely possible (and makes some sense given that apparently Pythia describes Earth's moon and sun, and all our constellations) that man started on Earth, 13 tribes left earth, one settles on Kobol, other twelve come to Kobol after unspecified disaster, live happily for millenia, all thirteen leave again, one of which heads back to Earth, rinse, repeat...
The_Raven on 6/4/2008 at 01:43
That did occur to me, but the whole "life here began out there" speech was taken from the introductory sequence of the original show. I don't think that view was intended, but I suppose it could be possible. One of the main reasons I say that is because the producers have said that they had no idea how they wanted to end the series until about halfway through season 2.
For those who haven't seen the original series, here is the opening narration from wikipedia:
Quote:
There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. That they may have been the architects of the great pyramids, or the lost civilizations of Lemuria or Atlantis. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens...
jtr7 on 6/4/2008 at 01:57
Quote:
EDIT: I don't suppose you think that Star Wars is set in the future as well?
:rolleyes:
No, you buttmunch. Too much "Adam's Ark" influence on my less-than-geeky BSG knowledge.
For those even less geeky:
"When
Battlestar Galactica was launched, Larson was the subject of many interviews. Over and over he told the same story of BG's origins. His original idea, he said, was for a series called
Adam's Ark.
Adam's Ark, Larson said, was 'sort of about the origins of mankind in the universe, taking some of the Biblical stories and moving them off into space as if by the time we get to Earth they're really not about things that happened here but things that might have happened somewhere else in space.'
Then, in the summer of 1977, when the success of
Star Wars made the words 'science fiction' once again safe to utter within network sanctums, Larson claimed he dusted this idea off, took it to Universal and ABC, and
Adam's Ark then formed the basis of
Battlestar Galactica. After all,
Battlestar Galactica did touch on and suggest legends, Biblical and otherwise, and the fleet was indeed heading to Earth.
Adam's Ark became part of the legend of BG's beginnings in spite of the fact that Larson never released a script or proposal to public view. More recently, Larson's story has changed, in interviews and most recently on the Sci-Fi Channel's Sciography special on BG.
Adam's Ark is now, according to Larson, about
a 'Howard Hughes-like' character, a billionaire named Adam who believes Earth to be doomed and tricks Earth's best and brightest onto a spaceship and launches them to discover new worlds.In other words, leaving Earth, not coming to Earth, and suddenly no hint of Biblical legends.'
And "Adam" became "Adama".
