Navyhacker006 on 31/3/2007 at 14:01
Quote Posted by Jonesy
Chief Tyrol: How do you know I'm human?
Brother Cavil: Oh, well, maybe because I'm a Cylon and I've
never seen you at any of the meetings. Yeah, and that line's been used twice (to my knowledge):
The first time, Head-Six says it about... Doral, who
is a cylon.
In retrospect, that should probably have been a rather large clue.
Hmm...
Galen Tyrol, Saul Tigh, Kara Thrace, Tory Foster, Sam T. Anders. Are we seeing a pattern yet? Been wanting to mention that, but until I did the Trivia Games off SciFi.com, I didn't see how Anders fit in.
rachel on 2/4/2007 at 15:10
Thrace is not a Cylon... Not yet, that is.
Navyhacker006 on 2/4/2007 at 20:17
Yeah, I'm not sure why I put her down. Spur of the moment thing. And she fits in the sequence.
All the last names were together on the Galactica; the first name was on Colonial One, and the middle name was on Caprica. Maybe I'm pulling this out of a hat...
Remembered this little exchange from Occupation/Precipice earlier:
Quote Posted by Tyrol
...You know, we need to figure out who's side we're on.
Quote Posted by Tigh
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We're evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go.
Think it means something more interesting now?
fett on 23/4/2007 at 03:59
Maybe this has already been mentioned, but it seems that the most simple/obvious answer to them all hearing the music and gathering together is that they were all resistance members and the Cylons somehow implanted something in them on New Caprica or some such. If it weren't for the commonality of them being resistance members/leaders, it would make more sense for them to be Cylons. I think whatever is going on is related to events on New Caprica coming home to roost, not them being Cylons.
Aerothorn - ALSO DUMBELDORE DIES
d0om on 23/4/2007 at 08:32
I don't know why you think its unlikely that all the cylons would be in the fleet: Battlestar Galactica was a museum not a fighting ship at the start. It was so old it was immune to the new cylon virus attack and so could actually fight back / run away rather than be paralysed and destroyed like the other battlestars.
There was obviously a plan in place to relocate Dr Baltar to the galactica as Sharon went down to pick him up.
The Cylons obviously wanted to wipe out humanity other than the galactica, and then follow / manipulate it for a while. They have had ample opportunity to destroy humanity completely if they really wanted to.
Tigh being a cylon is a bit strange though since that means that cylons looked like people at the start of the first war.
Odama knew there were 12 cylon models at the very beginning of the pilot. He had that note with it written on he didn't tell anyone else about. Now how did he come by this information? Perhaps he knows Tigh and Tyrol haves been cylons all along.
We know that Kara and Lee can't be cylons as they didn't get infected by the Cylon destroying virus. Unless Kara has had a child previously I suppose.
ignatios on 23/4/2007 at 11:43
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
Tigh being a Cylon has to be a little bit better than the bad impersonation of Billy Bob Thornton in Sling Blade that he's been doing for most of the past season.
The coolest fucking thing about Tigh being a Cylon is that he accepts it and then
chooses not to be one.I'm mostly with Maly, but not as grumpy about it. I also get the impression they didn't know they'd be picked up for a fourth season and decided to close the major story arcs and go out with a bang.
And by 'bang' I mean a
ROCK VIDEO IN SPACE :cool:
If it is right to pinpoint a shark-jump this season, it would be the Bulldog episode for me. Adama started the war? What the fuck.
Don't get me wrong; I love this goddamn show, but I loved it more when it was all about the survival of the human race and the Cylons jumping in was a
terrifying moment.
Navyhacker006 on 23/4/2007 at 11:47
Quote Posted by ignatios
If it is right to pinpoint a shark-jump this season, it would be the Bulldog episode for me. Adama started the war? What the fuck.
Except he didn't. He only thinks he did.
Caprica Six makes some point about having seduced Baltar for a number of years prior to the Bulldog mission.Ah, download the podcast - start at 4:30, listen through to about 6; RDM says the cylons have been working 'Baltar for years', and that 'the show sort of goes out of its way to make sure that the direct connection [between the recon mission and the genocide] is never made'
Now, how they handled Bulldog is dumb - they need all the pilots they can get, and having him show up in the background would've be a nice addition.
Quote:
Don't get me wrong; I love this goddamn show, but I loved it more when it was all about the survival of the human race and the Cylons jumping in was a terrifying moment.
There wasn't any terror when that raptor stayed behind, the Cylon Basestars jumped in and shot at them instantly? And there wasn't mass confusion and fear when the Cylon fleet found Galactica at the end of season 3?
On the podcast note, they really give insight into which stories worked (from their perspective) and which didn't, more history that's probably worth remembering, even if the scene was deleted for time, it's probably still valid; There was probably still a massacre of the Saggitarons on New Caprica that was orchestrated by Zarek, even if it never gets addressed in the show for one reason or another.
Angelfire on 23/4/2007 at 12:20
BSG started out great, I truly enjoyed the introduction "mini season". It was almost rivaling B5 for me at the time. After that things started declining rapidly. I stopped watching the show by the end of season 1. Things turned into such bullshit that OMFG!
Mostly I feel ashamed when I watch it. That tells something :confused:
ignatios on 23/4/2007 at 12:22
This is exactly what I mean. That episode marks where the writing started losing the cohesion that made the show so gripping.
It's not about whether Adama blames himself or not; the point is that to even suggest something like that is a cheap way to add MYSTERY and SHOCKING and OMG. The series hadn't quite resorted to cheap tricks like that yet.
edit:
Okay, but the point is that they shouldn't have to go out of the way to explain episodes like that. It should be tight and controlled like it was at the beginning, not loose and ad hoc like so many science fiction shows before it.
As for the terror, the Cylons aren't directly hunting the fleet any more. Both fleets search for Earth and get in each other's way, which is a lot less thrilling.
The handling (as you mention) is exactly what's gone awry. All the elements are still there, but it's gotten sloppy.
Navyhacker006 on 23/4/2007 at 13:24
Quote Posted by ignatios
This is exactly what I mean. That episode marks where the writing started losing the cohesion that made the show so gripping.
It's not about whether Adama blames himself or not; the point is that to even suggest something like that is a cheap way to add MYSTERY and SHOCKING and OMG. The series hadn't quite resorted to cheap tricks like that yet.
I'm not sure I understand. Do you just mean the debut of a one-off character who exists just to shed light on what happened is cheap? Then, yes. I'm really not getting the MYSTERY or SHOCKING or OMG factors, though.
The episode failed, there's really no doubt about that; if it can't convey the difference between 'what happened' and 'what the characters think happened' without podcasts, then I see where you're coming from.
