BlackErtai on 4/3/2005 at 05:47
A friend of mine made me watch all of Firefly, and I've never been more bored. I mean, it had some good ideas (the shephard), but it never did anything with them, and when it actually hinted at it, it would always go off in a predictable manner.
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Stargate: People watch this crap?
Yes, and people liked it alot more than people liked Firefly, if seasons running are anything to be said. I pray that the original, SG-1, continues as long as RDA will let it, because the mix of comedy and realistic sci-fi is much cooler than any other show on right now. I wouldn't trade it for any of those others back besides Deep Space Nine, which I agree was the best Trek, and an Awesome show in it's own right. I'd probably trade SG-1 for DS9, but that's because I've been watching the SG-1 DVD's for the past two weeks straight now.
Gingerbread Man on 4/3/2005 at 05:51
I am currently annoyed that Firefly airs opposite the Daily Show. I have seen the last half of a few episodes. Digging it muchly.
(Kinda weird to see Ron Glass, though)
Scud on 4/3/2005 at 07:23
It's kind of weird seeing Ron Glass with hair like that. :cheeky:
In one episode he has his hair down while he's washing it and scares the crap out of River when she walks in and sees the horrific sight, it's like he's channeling Don King on a bad hair day.
I'd agree that Digital Nightfall's acessment of SG-1 is a little harsh, but I don't think it's the best thing out there either. For me it still dosen't hold a candle to shows like Farscape, Firefly, B5 but the mix of sci-fi and comedy is often very good. At least some of the cast of Farscape are migrating to SG-1, Claudia Black has already shown up recently in a very funny episode and Ben Browder is supposed to be showing up next season (I think) as a new member of SG-1.
Gingerbread Man on 4/3/2005 at 07:27
I could never get into Farscape, no matter how many raves I heard (even when they were told to me by people who generally have impeccable opinions)... I kept wanting to see Bruce Campbell in the lead.
Plus I am allergic to gay marionettes.
GWD on 4/3/2005 at 07:38
I don't recall if Firefly was aired in Aus... probably on somewhere between midnight and 3 am (me = :bored: ), and I don't have any form of TV recording available to me right now.
I remember being very hesitant in watching B5 in the beginning, but that danm-well hooked me. It got a bit schmaltzy at times, but generally takled most stuff well, I thought.
JMS is currently in gathering-support mode from the sci-fi community for being allowed to write a ST series. That would be interesting.
Oh, and the original BG series was cheesy, but hooked this kid back when it was a first run in Aus :thumb: . Does anyone remember when they came to earth in that original series (or was it a spinoff series???) where they had those groovy, techo-bikes??? :laff: I've gotten to the point with the new adaptation that I can keep track of the story through channel-flicks and seeing the upcoming episode promos, as it's to divergent for me... :erg:
GWD
Malygris on 4/3/2005 at 13:27
You're thinking of Galactica 1980, a series so utterly god-awful that even I, as a doltish young lad who'd loved the original, could immediately see it for the pathetic glop of shit that it was. We're talking really horrid stuff here. Made the original BG look like Shakespeare.
On the plus side, it was pulled very quickly - only last three or four eps, as I recall.
*Zaccheus* on 4/3/2005 at 13:38
I loved the original Galactica films.
As for the new series ...
[spoiler]I find Baltar's behaviour hard to comprehend.
Talk about sleeping with the enemy.
There was even one instance where he more or less said:
"Oh look, the wife of the second in command is a cylon, oh well I won't tell anyone".
WTF?[/spoiler]
Fafhrd on 4/3/2005 at 19:45
watch the spoilers there, Zacch. The series only recently started airing in the US, so the episode you refer to hasn't aired yet.
BlackErtai on 4/3/2005 at 20:25
I don't know, I've seen the new Battlestar, and while it's good, I still like SG-1 better since to me it's alittle more believable. I can't suspend disbelief long enough to make Battlestar engrossing, although I do think it's doing better than I had expected. I plan on trying to catch up with it this summer. Apparently, Sci-fi has been posting the episodes for free on their website, which is really cool. Right now it's just the 1st one, but even so. My interweb's too slow here at school (damn port blocking and rate limiting), but once I get into my appartment in 2 months, I'll be good for watching it.
I can see why Stargate wouldn't be interesting to everyone, like you've said, but at the same time, my other favorite sci-fi show was widely (and still is) reviled by most people for some reason too. If you talk to most Trek fans/sci-fi fans, they hate DS9. I'm of the oppinion that this is because they couldn't'/can't appreciate the subtle depths that the story had, like the Bajoran religion and the influence of the Profits. If you didn't see DS9 in order, it usually made little sense, and didn't have the same "jump on anywhere" quality that most other Trek series do. Voyager was pretty self explainitory for people, "oooo, lost crew, hot chic, trying to get home + borg". SG-1 explores alot of the same issues, but they do it much more round-about, mainly since they're dealing with religion that people actually hold. They can't just come out and point out the similarities between the falsehood's of ancient religions and the monotheasitic religions we now have, but they've come really close (most of the episodes with Sen. Kinsey are gold for his unwaivering belief in God and America's choosen path). If you don't like that juxtaposition of religion and sci-fi, I understand all too well why you wouldn't be a big fan of SG-1. If religion doesn't interest you, or you don't like questioning your values, try Stargate: Atlantis. So far, that show's done nothing out of the ordinary for Sci-fi shows, doesn't really explore any new ground, and relies on old cliche's to accomplish story movement. Granted, it's finally getting better near the end of season 1, when they've started looking at the conflict between various human groups in the face of a larger enemy (they even called each other terrorists in one episode). I'm slowly coming around on Atlantis, truthfully. When it first started, it was way too derivative, but like I said...it's coming into it's own late seaosn1. I'm hoping unlike Enterprise, it gets better after 1 season, not 3.
And I've also heard that the guy from Farscape (another show I was never really into) is going to be joining SG-1 as the replacement in the team for Richard Dean Anderson (McGuyiver), since he's pretty much removed himself from the everyday adventures of the show, and become more the background character. That's sad, but at the same time I can understand it. The man's already got plenty of money from McGuyiver's syndication, and he's probably making a shitton more from being in on the ground floor of SG-1's syndication. That show plays in reruns on like 3 channels in the US alone, not including other countries. I'm hoping the Farscape dude lives up to what other people have told me about him. He seemed kind of robotic to me when I did watch Farscape, but that's becausee I don't think his face changes much with different emotions, so he kind of looks mechanical. Oh well.
*Zaccheus* on 4/3/2005 at 20:49
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watch the spoilers there, Zacch. The series only recently started airing in the US, so the episode you refer to hasn't aired yet.
Sorry.
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I still like SG-1 better
Me too.
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If you talk to most Trek fans/sci-fi fans, they hate DS9.
Geez I loved DS9. Definitively the best ST ever made. Gotta love those <s>football hooligans</s> Klingons.