Starker on 7/6/2017 at 16:52
Europe has seen that and worse and didn't cower in fear and abandon its principles. Why should it now?
Also, wasn't it an American who once said, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"?
Krush on 7/6/2017 at 16:59
If you're referring to WWII, Europeans fought and defeated the enemy. They should do the same today. Where would England or France be today if they decided not to fight Hitler because #notallGermans were Nazis?
Starker on 7/6/2017 at 17:01
No, I'm referring to the 70s and 80s when there really was a terror attack every week.
SubJeff on 7/6/2017 at 17:23
You missed the 4th choice - live in harmony.
You must be a very unhappy person Krush. A horrible dinner guest.
Krush on 7/6/2017 at 17:26
Your personal attacks don't change reality. Oh I forgot, you're the guy who says Europeans HAVE to import the entire third world so SubJeff can get good multicultural food.
Again, Europeans who have seen streets full of their friends crushed under truck wheels might start seeing it differently.
Renzatic on 7/6/2017 at 17:26
Quote Posted by Krush
If you're referring to WWII, Europeans fought and defeated the enemy. They should do the same today. Where would England or France be today if they decided not to fight Hitler because #notallGermans were Nazis?
Shitty analogy.
A. We're fighting the enemy now. The enemy isn't Islam. It's ISIS.
B. What you're advocating would be more like the government rounding up and deporting all Germans, because
some of them could be secret Nazis.
caffeinatedzombeh on 7/6/2017 at 17:27
Quote Posted by Krush
What a strange argument. This is simply not true.
What's
your definition of "human rights"?
It doesn't appear to be the same one other people are using.
Krush on 7/6/2017 at 17:32
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What's your definition of "human rights"?
Don't bomb people, murder them, rape them, enslave them...
Free movement of people into any country is not a human right.
heywood on 7/6/2017 at 17:32
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These guys aren't attacking your people because they don't like bikinis. They are fighting a war against you. This is how Islam has behaved for over a thousand years. They want everything you have - the land, gold, women, the whole enchilada.
If you're willing to peacefully surrender and give it all to them, then fine (and your leaders are willing). If not, they will be happy to slaughter every last one of you.
You have three choices:
1) Convert to Islam
2) Expel all muslims from your land
3) Choose not to fight and be slaughtered until the last few remnants are made into slaves.
Make the choice soon. Although even converting to Islam will not stop the bombing and fighting, because factions within Islam still attack each other.
4) Ignore absurd false options and continue fighting terrorists.
Quote Posted by Krush
If you're referring to WWII, Europeans fought and defeated the enemy. They should do the same today. Where would England or France be today if they decided not to fight Hitler because #notallGermans were Nazis?
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Shitty analogy.
A. We're fighting the enemy now. The enemy isn't Islam. It's ISIS.
B. What you're advocating would be more like the government rounding up and deporting all Germans, because
some of them could be secret Nazis.
Or rounding up and deporting all Christians because the Nazi are Christians.
Quote Posted by Krush
Don't bomb people, murder them, rape them, enslave them...
Free movement of people into any country is not a human right.
Freedom of religion is human right, it was central to the founding of the US and it's a Constitutionally protected right.
Renzatic on 7/6/2017 at 17:38
Quote Posted by heywood
Or rounding up and deporting all Christians because the Nazi are Christians.
Well...sorta. Kinda. Not really.
If Nazism were allowed to spread and flourish, Christianity probably would've eventually been greatly reduced, if not banned outright, since it gets in the way of the fuhrer being the object of everyone's affections.