Kolya on 4/6/2017 at 08:10
I hope all our London residents and their loved ones are okay.
ffox on 4/6/2017 at 08:39
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Stabbings? How quaint. I guess U.K.'s gun control is more effective than some people claim.
Think how much worse it might have been if that gun control wasn't in place.
btw, "quaint" is not an appropriate word to use in tragic circumstances.
Vae on 4/6/2017 at 08:48
UPDATE: 7 people confirmed dead, 48+ hospitalized, and the three attackers shouted "this is for Allah", as they went after people with their long knives.
Krush on 4/6/2017 at 17:38
Nothing will change. Flowers, vigils, Facebook profile changes, rinse and repeat.
Tony_Tarantula on 4/6/2017 at 18:33
Apparently the solution is that we need to clamp down on internet hate speech.
Great point, since anti-immigrant policies and sentiment are what causes terror. That's why Poland and Hungary have more terror attacks than all other European countries combined.
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Think much worse it might have been if that gun control wasn't in place.
btw, "quaint" is not an appropriate word to use in tragic circumstances.
Ever heard of this thing called a "bomb"?
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I predict a change in behaviour; people will start taking these guys on en masse and beating them, perhaps to death. Just like in Israel where civilians sometimes take on terrorists.
The problem with that is that most people aren't smart enough or (even if they are that smart) rational enough to distinguish between the different types of "these guys". Hell even most of the people here are so massively ignorant on the topic that they think I'm crazy when I try to explain how the reality tribal/sectarian nature of most Islamic countries doesn't bear much relationship to the view Westerners have of all "Muslims" and "Refugees" being one homogeneous group.
If that happens both the guys who have been in Europe for decades and integrated into the culture, as well as the legitimate refugees, will be lumped in with the nutjobs and subjected to violence.
nickie on 4/6/2017 at 18:45
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Nothing will change. . . .
I may well regret this post. I'm probably more or less twice the age of most posters here. As a baby, we didn't leave the city where I was born without travelling in convoy and with my mother holding a loaded gun in her lap. There have been quite a few similar times so no, I think there will always be terror of one sort or another, whether it's carried out by people like IS or governments like the UK and the US and undoubtedly many others.
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She may have a point, since anti-immigrant policies and sentiment are what causes terror.
I never thought I'd agree with you about anything. But you might be not saying what I think you are.
I thought May might have been quite good but now I think she's a complete dipstick although we do already have laws about hate speech and that includes the internet.
Harvester on 4/6/2017 at 18:48
Tony, I think she meant battling radical Islamic propaganda online, and she actually had far more to say than just that. I think Labour might be taking a hit in the upcoming elections, because Corbyn is considered weak on combating terrorism.
Tony_Tarantula on 4/6/2017 at 18:51
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I never thought I'd agree with you about anything. But you might be not saying what I think you are.
Wait, you thought I was serious?
The statistic I put out was complete bullshit and you fell right for it because it fit your confirmation bias.
This is the real map of big terror attacks in Poland:
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https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2012/04/01/17/08/poland-23558_960_720.pngHere's my question: if "anti immigrant" policies are the real cause of terror, then can you explain why Poland has been largely free of terror attacks while other European nations are suffering multiple mass-casualty attacks every year?
edit: and let me take that a step further. By that logic, isn't the way to defeat white supremacists to be kind and understanding towards them?
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Tony, I think she meant battling radical Islamic propaganda online, and she actually had far more to say than just that. I think Labour might be taking a hit in the upcoming elections, because Corbyn is considered weak on combating terrorism.
Jumped the gun on it, still stupid. Censorship doesn't really work.
Starker on 4/6/2017 at 20:08
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Here's my question: if "anti immigrant" policies are the real cause of terror, then can you explain why Poland has been largely free of terror attacks while other European nations are suffering multiple mass-casualty attacks every year?
edit: and let me take that a step further. By that logic, isn't the way to defeat white supremacists to be kind and understanding towards them?
Here's a question. What do you think anti-immigrant policies will accomplish? Do you think it's worth giving up Western values like religious freedom and human rights to achieve that? Can you explain why Norway has been largely free of Islamic terror attacks even though they lack anti-immigrant policies.
Now let me take it even a step further. Do you think nationalism should be banned because of the extremists who go and kill people?
