Starker on 10/6/2017 at 01:13

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In the period of 2001--2016 they still counted more far right extremist attacks and deaths caused by far right extremists.



The overall pattern is that islamist extremists conduct fewer attacks with higher death counts per incident, but that doesn't mean that far right extremism is not a significant threat.

Starker on 10/6/2017 at 02:19

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But the larger point remains -- far right extremism is not an insignificant threat and far right extremists are not few and far between.

So I ask once again, if muslims should be banned, should nationalists also be banned?

Tony_Tarantula on 10/6/2017 at 14:21

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So just to smash Starker's ridiculous accusation that America is a festering Nazi scab just waiting to erupt, let's translate those numbers on Wahabbist terrorism sympathisers to white Americans on a per capita basis.

Let's imagine an America where:

-19% (42,475,108) of white Americans support the objective of creating an islamic caliphate White supremacist state.

-3% (6,706,590) of white Americans support the way the Islamic State is going Hitler went about establishing a caliphate white supremacist state.

-18% (40,239,576) of white Americans sympathise with those who engage in violence against those who mock the prophet Hitler.

-21% (46,946,172) of white Americans do not condemn execution for adultery interracial sex.

-15% (33,532,980) of white Americans do not condemn suicide bombing church shootings ala Dylan Roof.

-17% (38,004,044) of white Americans do not condemn terrorism racial massacres as a form of political protest.

If these numbers were remotely correct and whites were every bit as hostile as militant muslims then lets play with numbers some more.

5 dead 280 wounded in the Boston marathon bombing (2013)
4 dead 0 wounded in the Ali Muhammad Brown killings
1 dead 0 wounded in The Vaughn Foods beheading
5 dead 0 wounded during The Chatanooga Shootings
0 dead 2 wounded during the The university of California stabbing
14 dead 24 wounded in The San Bernadino Attack
0 dead 1 wounded from The Philly cop shooting
49 dead 53 wounded during The Orlando Nightclub Shooting
0 dead 10 wounded during The Minnesota Mall stabbings
0 dead 34 wounded during the New York and New Jersey bombings
0 dead 13 wounded during the Ohio State University car attack

total from 2013 to now:

78 dead 417 wounded.

Let's adjust per capita for your imaginary whites supremacists vs statistically confirmed islamic supremacists. 223,553,265 Whites. 3,087,455 Muslims. That's roughly 72 times as many whites as muslims.

So if your ridiculous notions were correct then during the scant 3.5 years since Jan 2013 we'd have seen 5616 non-whites killed and 30024 non-whites wounded in attacks directly attributable to white supremacist political movements.

SubJeff on 10/6/2017 at 17:46

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I'll let someone else tear down that bs Tony.

I just want to say, as a Brit and a Londoner, I recognise that the terrorists make up a tiny, tiny minority of Muslims.

See, we're tolerant, we're nice, we're reasonable.

You and your type are hate filled and ignorant. I honestly don't know how you live with yourselves. The only conclusion is that you're just unaware of how unreasonable you are being. Do you think other people can't do stats? Do think we don't realise that without ANY Muslims there would be no Islamic terrorism? Of course we do. But labelling massive sections of the population because of the actions of a few is the very definition of prejudice. If everyone were to do that can you imagine how many people would hate white people based on yours, Krush, GMDs and Vae's opinions. You're all verging on Neo-Nazism, honestly. In fact I think Krush has already lost it.

Grow up. You're acting like a dumb teenager.

Krush on 12/6/2017 at 15:08

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Nazism means National Socialism. I am against socialism, therefore not a Nazi.