LarryG on 30/10/2010 at 15:26
I've been connecting just fine up until a week ago when, on a reboot, my network adapters failed to connect through to my router. I swaped ethernet cables at the MB with another PC that was connecting (both at the router and at the PC N/W adapters), and it connected to the router just fine but my PC did not connect using the cable from the other PC. I then tried connecting the ethernet cable directly to the modem, and that didn't work either. My MB has two network adapters, so I tried the other one, and it has the same problem as the first.
I have tried:
* All windows Vista64 N/W adapter troubleshooting multiple times
* ipconfig /release
* ipconfig /renew
* disabled and reenabled the network adapters
* downloaded the most recent nvidia drivers and installed them (using another PC connected to the web)
* Rolled back to a Restore Point prior to the problem starting
* Checked that the BIOS has the N/W adapters enabled
* Rebooted innumerable times, in particular both before and after disabling / enabling the N/W adapters, updating the nvidia drivers, and rolling back to the prior restore point.
The only things I have thought of doing but not yet done that might (conceivibly?) help are:
* Flash my BIOS with the latest from ASUS
* Reinstall Windows
Before I go there I would welcome any less drastic suggestions.
Personally I suspect the MB as the cause. This MB has been nothing but trouble from before day one. The original system ship was delayed because the 1st MB did not test out and ASUS could not get a working MB out of their QA for several weeks. Then when the PC arrived the MB was DOA. It was replaced twice before I had a working MB. For the past 2 years, it has been OK, but now this. The PC is behind a TRIPPLITE surge protector which is behind a TRIPPLITE UPS, so there should not be any problems from dirty power.
I've been working with the PC Manufacturer's tech support who wants me now to return the PC for testing. I would prefer to exhaust all possible solutions short of replacing the MB first. So, please, any and all suggestions are welcome.
This is a pretty complete description of my setup (via (
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html) Belarc Advisor to extract):
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Operating System
Windows Vista Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 2 (build 6002)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United States)
System Model
ASUSTek Computer INC. L1N64-SLI WS Rev 1.xx
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor
3.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 FX (2 installed)
256 kilobyte primary memory cache
4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (4 total)
Not hyper-threaded
Main Circuit Board
Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. L1N64-SLI WS Rev 1.xx
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 0505 07/18/2007
Memory Modules
8192 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
Slot 'DIMM0' has 2048 MB
Slot 'DIMM1' has 2048 MB
Slot 'DIMM2' has 2048 MB
Slot 'DIMM3' has 2048 MB
Communications
Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet #3
APIPA Address: 169.254.231.62 / 16
Dhcp Server: none responded
Physical Address: EF:9F:E9:F7:F7:F7
NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet #4
primary APIPA Address: 169.254.242.225 / 16
Dhcp Server: none responded
Physical Address: EF:9F:E9:F7:F7:F7
Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Controllers
Standard floppy disk controller
IDE Channel [Controller] (2x)
Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Display
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 [Display adapter] (2x)
Sony GDM-FW900 [Monitor] (22.5"vis, s/n 2713404, January 2002)
Bus Adapters
Microsoft iSCSI Initiator
NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller
NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller (6x)
Silicon Image SiI 3531 SATA Controller
Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Multimedia
ATI Unified AVStream Driver
SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
SoundTap Recorder
Webcam Pro 9000
Other Devices
VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
HID-compliant consumer control device
HID-compliant device (2x)
USB Human Interface Device (4x)
Logitech Webcam Pro 9000
HID Keyboard Device
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical
Generic USB Hub (3x)
Logitech USB Camera (Webcam Pro 9000)
USB Composite Device (2x)
USB Mass Storage Device (4x)
USB Root Hub (2x)
Generic volume shadow copy
WD SES Device
UPDATE: ASUS Technical Support FAQ suggested
Quote:
Could not connect to network
1. For your problem, please enter "Device Manager" to check whether the Network adapters is normal.
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2. Please check whether the "Local Area Connection" is normal..
3. Please uninstall the LAN driver and then re-install it. When you install the driver, please do not install "NVIDIA FORCEWARE NETWORK ACCESS MANAGER".
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4. If possible, please change the network condition to have a test or you could use a LAN card to test again if possible.
The only thing in this advice that I had not tried was " ... do not install 'NVIDIA FORCEWARE NETWORK ACCESS MANAGER'." So I uninstalled it & rebooted. No effect. I then uninsalled the NVIDIA drivers and tried the Windows Vista default drivers. Rebooted. No effect. I then reinstalled the latest NVIDIA drivers & rebooted. No effect.
Enchantermon on 30/10/2010 at 20:33
When you do a plain ipconfig, what address or error messages do you get? Also, when you connect a cable between your computer and the router, what kind of lights do you get on your adapter (there should be two; a green steady one and an orange blinking one)?
LarryG on 31/10/2010 at 18:34
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Each LAN adapter (RJ-45) has two lights. With an ethernet cable in each, both show a steady ORANGE and blinking YELLOW. According to my L1N64-SLI WS motherboard's manual, the ORANGE indicates 100 Mbps connection. (GREEN would be 1Gbps), and the blinking YELLOW indicates data activity (ORANGE on this light would mean Linked). I assume that the blinking reflects a continued polling of the router for an IP address.
ASUS has replied to my reported issue to their technical support with the suggestion that I remove the MB and bench test it. If it works there, then reinstall with it insulated from the case. Since I don't have the capability to bench test the board, that advice is not particilarly useful. It does sound like they suspect a short of some sort. They advise NOT updating the BIOS.
NVIDIA also responded to my reported issue to theier technical support. They advise updating the BIOS "with the support of the board manufacturer." :erg:
The PC is still under warranty with the PC manufacturer, and I am advocating that they ship me a replacement board for a local tech to install (insulated from the case). But since the board is no longer being manufactured, I doubt that ASUS has any to supply. And that would mean that the PC manufacturer would have to expend some $500 to purchase the replacement from a 3rd party instead of just getting a waranty replacement from ASUS. I expect them to resist this suggestion.
Meanwhile I have ordered a $30 NIC from Egghead to verify that it is indeed the N/W adapters on the board that are the problem and not something else with the machine (for example, Vista being weirdly corrupted), and, not so coinicidentally, to get me back connected to the N/W while the warranty issues play out.
Al_B on 31/10/2010 at 21:30
Are you able to try a Linux live CD? It would at least remove the possibility of something going wrong in the Windows network stack. I've used Knoppix and Ubuntu myself in the past for things like this but there are (
http://www.livecdlist.com/) loads of others and Damn Small Linux is only around 50MB.
LarryG on 1/11/2010 at 14:39
I haven't, and it is an interesting idea.
LarryG on 3/11/2010 at 01:52
Just an update. I added an Intel NIC to my system, and instant internet. So the motherboard's network adapters are definitely the problem. Not Windows, not cables, not modem, not router, not software. The MB itself. Now I'll find out what AVA Direct, the PC manufacturer, wants to do about a bad motherboard that is no longer in production (with good reason!) but still under warranty.
hercares on 3/11/2010 at 22:59
Hi,LarryG. Can you sell your not fully working Asus mobo L1N64? or change just mobo to my xw9400 mobo with two quad opteron? Please,answer to my email [email]hercares@gmail.com[/email]
Queue on 3/11/2010 at 23:19
I gotta bridge to nowhere I can sell you. Cheap.
LarryG on 4/11/2010 at 05:23
Last word from the owner of AVA Direct was that he is going to ask ASUS to replace my MB with a new, current, equivalent MB. If ASUS won't pony up, he said he would personally buy me a new board. We'll see what happens. AVA Direct has provided good support on a bad PC and lived up to their warranty. They've lost money on this, I've lost money and time on this. I'll be glad to get a reliable board finally. I'm still not holding my breath, but I'm beginning to hope.
Anyone who wants one of these boards, just google it. You can find new ones for somewhere in the range of $500-700. The specs look great, but if you also google customer complaints you'll find many more than normal. This board is just not reliable. I suspect tolerances were tighter than manufacturing capabilities. But that's just an (un)educated guess.
hercares on 4/11/2010 at 07:35
Quote Posted by LarryG
Anyone who wants one of these boards, just google it. You can find new ones for somewhere in the range of $500-700. The specs look great, but if you also google customer complaints you'll find many more than normal. This board is just not reliable. I suspect tolerances were tighter than manufacturing capabilities. But that's just an (un)educated guess.
I think that this doesn't cost it a lot of money,500-700$ for this old mobo. I have several xw9400 mobos with pair of old Opteron 2344,2352,new Shanghai 2376 and six core opteron 2427,2425HE. I could make to work these boards with quad cores,but many people said that it's imposible for this revision. Now I want to make Asus L1N64 working with Shanghai/Istanbul cores,so I wrote all people who have this board to private in forums. Hi,anyone! I can to change your mobo Asus L1N64 any revison to my xw9400 system board working correctly with latest Opteron,HT 2400,ECC/REG 800 and SAS on board with pair of quad core opteron 2344 or 2352, Just mobo, may be you'll be very liberal and give also your 90nm FXs.
Also I need to check how lot of people could start this system with opteron and non-ECC/Reg memory.