Couderc on 30/3/2002 at 18:54
Yes, computer nerds. I for one am a gaming/fantasyRPG nerd. Windows does what I need it to.
Oh and I will stick with windows cause software is actually made for it. Linux' obvious lack of- is quite evident since you need to do this poll. :eek: :cheeky:
Pesht on 5/4/2002 at 10:15
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www.fuckmicrosoft.com)
There are about 500 reasons on there not to use windows. (esp check out the first article there about what makes Microsoft so bad) Am I still using windows? Yeah, cause of the gaming aspect, but if anything else ever came out that worked just as well as windows for games, my OS wouldn't know what hit it.
And you know, a realization came to me about microsoft's products. What other company sticks their freaking name in front of every stinking product they make? It's never just the name, it's always Microsoft Window's 2000, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Microsoft Word. Blah, excuse me while I puke.
xman on 5/4/2002 at 13:50
Most of the big companies do that... Not only Microsoft.
Udasai on 8/4/2002 at 19:01
BeOS 0unz j00!!!
Tels on 2/5/2002 at 13:33
See also <a href="http://www.transgaming.com/gamepage.php?gameid=463">here</a>.
[Oups, wrong link - corrected]
Dark Angel on 2/5/2002 at 20:42
i think they should just find a way to get Linux to support all the programs Windows supports. If they do that and then make the interface nicer looking, i'd switch to Linux as soon as possible :)
...wait, never mind what i said about Linux's interface not looking nice, it looks great! All the screenshots i've seen in the past were very Windows 95 looking, which is why i said that. So the only thing stopping me from getting Linux is because i want all my Windows programs to run on it, also some of my hardware doesn't have Linux drivers.... :(
Tels on 11/5/2002 at 08:28
About programs:
For most of the stuff, you can get either:
* native Linux programs as replacements
* run it under Wine (or WineX)
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also some of my hardware doesn't have Linux drivers
Yes, some stuff (especially the dumb winmodems) are not supported. Usually this is no problem, since of lately it get's hard to find hardware that isn't supported by Linux ;)
And you can always dual-boot :-P
Te"hasn't booted to windows for weeks"ls
twisty on 11/5/2002 at 08:48
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Originally posted by Tels Usually this is no problem, since of lately it get's hard to find hardware that isn't supported by Linux ;)Not for me, unfortunately. I'm currently using Redhat 7.2 and I have been having major dramas with my Asus Geforce 3 Ti200 (therefore I can't use it for most games If I want more than 2 f/s). I also can't use my scanner. As far as my pen tablet is concerned, its a bitch trying to configure it if I've also got my intellimouse connected as well.
Shadowcat on 11/5/2002 at 14:12
Spot the slashdotter :)
It would be great, but I can't imagine it will happen, and wouldn't blame Arkane in the least if they weren't interested. The figures seem to indicate that there's very little point in doing it -- look at what happened to Loki... :/
Tels on 12/5/2002 at 12:01
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Spot the slashdotter :)
Me? Never! ;)
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It would be great, but I can't imagine it will happen, and wouldn't blame Arkane in the least if they weren't interested. The figures seem to indicate that there's very little point in doing it -- look at what happened to Loki... :/
I think Loki's business plan was doomed to fail. Let me explain ;)
There are three ways to get a game to run under Linux:
* native development (aka cross-platform portable). The best, and hopefully will happen more and more. Not only has it benefits to the Linux guys (like me ;), but also to the game: code is more clean, more modular, less bugs etc. It *is* more work, but when done right can save you in the long run. Neverwinter Nights is usch a game, which will have both Windows and Linux versions in the same box (too bad they aren't sold different, so nobody will count how many Linux versions are sold).
* using WineX. Works quite okay, and enables a wide range of games. This is a shortterm solution, which can be used to cover the gap until all games are native (or cross-platform). It is a bit hard for the WineX folks to raise funds, but at least the benefit from all gamers under Linux, not only these few for one or two games.
* Porting them. Not good. First, the game is ported *such* a long time after the game comes out, that it is really outdated. That isn't a problem merely with having only fairly old games, (e.g. everyone would rather have the new games to play), but more like a problem that you already own the windows version of the game. So, for to run a game under Linux, I have to pay *again* and a fairly hefty amount. If I don't own the game yet, it is a bit better, but even there the price for the Linux version is much higher than (usually) the one for the Windows version, because these games are now in the oudated-bin.
To solution three you must also add that getting a game to run under winex is a bit more easier than to port it, or in other words: a port is a freaking amount of work. And the port only enables one game, while winex enables more than one game with the work you do.
And on top of that, companies like Loki *must pay the game publisher* so they are allowed to port a game! That should be the other way (publisher pays to get game ported to linux, and then sells it). But it isn't and so it can't work.
In short: Loki spends big amounts of cash and time to get *one* game working *late* on Linux, and then sells it for a *high* price to the masses, that mostly already own the game. And this is a business plan? ;)
Hope that didn't come out to confused, I shouldn't have edited in that tiny box...