Anarchic Fox on 18/6/2020 at 13:32
Also, Arkane is consistently bad at making trailers that show off their games' strengths. The trailer for Prey comes to mind, which emphasized horror above all else.
catbarf on 18/6/2020 at 17:09
Quote Posted by heywood
It's ironic you said that, because Deathloop looks derivative to me. The resemblance to Dishonored is striking, at least to my eyes. But it's also not far from the Bioshocks, Outer Worlds, and even We Happy Few. I'm not sure what to call it, maybe "cartoony reality".
Yeah, and it's not just the graphical style; the sequence of teleporting up to a roof and then jump-assassinating an enemy looked straight out of Dishonored.
It reminds me a lot of Bioshock Infinite, in that it looks like very similar graphical style and core gameplay as the prior games, but drawing art inspiration from a different era. Then again, maybe the trailer doesn't represent the gameplay, or was deliberately meant to evoke Dishonored.
chk772 on 19/6/2020 at 09:55
TBH, this is the least appealing Arkane game for me so far. Just have no use for such action based games... (and I doubt that it will be a good seller, TBH. I'm sure most kids will be like "WTF is that?" after seeing the trailer).
It seems like Dishnored is not ceased forever, according to a guy from Arkane Studio (can't remember where I read it some weeks ago), so, I have hopes for that in the future. Or a Prey 2, which would be absolutely awesome (actually, I'd even prefer that over another Dishonored).
Thirith on 19/6/2020 at 10:57
I loved both Dishonored and Prey, but IMO both of these completed their stories. I can imagine further games in the Dishonored world, but I don't want them to churn out sequels just so that there is a sequel.
At the same time, I love what Arkane does with the immersive sim genre. Perhaps there'd be different kinds of scenarios that could benefit from their talents. Perhaps an immersive sim spy game, something with a touch of Alpha Protocol? Or Valve could actually let them complete a Half-Life spinoff?
Deathloop looks more actiony to me, which is why I'm not as excited as I might otherwise be. They've shown they can do action with Dark Messiah, but I prefer having time to enjoy the environments and definitely am more of a stealth afficionadol. But I do hope that Deathloop works out for them, because they're definitely among my favourite developers.
froghawk on 19/6/2020 at 13:09
I can easily imagine Prey 2 Hell on Earth style. That's what they seemed to be hinting at with the ending - the only issue is it would have to be a much bigger game to capture the same sort of open design.
Did anyone play Wolfenstein: Youngblood? The reviews scared me off. Sounded like it had great Arkane level design but the gameplay loop was loot-bollocks.
chk772 on 19/6/2020 at 15:27
Quote Posted by Thirith
I loved both
Dishonored and
Prey, but IMO both of these completed their stories. I can imagine further games in the
Dishonored world, but I don't want them to churn out sequels just so that there is a sequel.
At the same time, I love what Arkane does with the immersive sim genre. Perhaps there'd be different kinds of scenarios that could benefit from their talents. Perhaps an immersive sim spy game, something with a touch of
Alpha Protocol?
I'd love that. Especially when it involves stealth gameplay.
heywood on 19/6/2020 at 18:43
I would be up for that as well, especially now that the Deus Ex franchise has been put on the shelf.
EvaUnit02 on 20/6/2020 at 15:45
Quote Posted by Thirith
At the same time, I love what Arkane does with the immersive sim genre. Perhaps there'd be different kinds of scenarios that could benefit from their talents. Perhaps an immersive sim spy game, something with a touch of
Alpha Protocol? Or Valve could actually let them complete a
Half-Life spinoff?
These are definitely pipe dreams. Prey, Dishonored 2 and its expand-alone were big flops. The fact that Bethesda has taken a console timed exclusivity bribe for Deathloop from PlayStation speaks volumes, to mitigate some of the financial risk.
The rumours were that Bethesda didn't know what to do with Arkane, hence putting them to work assisting on the poor quality Wolfenstein spin-offs from 2019. Don't be surprised if they get rechristened as a Bethesda Game Studios satellite studio in future, assisting on TES, Fallout, etc.
Jason Moyer on 21/6/2020 at 00:33
Peak simultaneous players on Steam:
Dishonored: 19,930
Dishonored 2: 22,269
Prey: 24,594
Wolfenstein Youngblood: 6,481
I don't buy the idea that their games have somehow been getting less successful or that putting them on big franchise side projects is beneficial. Dishonored 2 was only a flop in the sense that it didn't sell as many physical copies as its predecessor, but even on console I'd wager that difference is down entirely to the difference in how people bought games in 2016-2017 vs 2011.
EvaUnit02 on 23/6/2020 at 09:38
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
Peak simultaneous players on Steam:
Dishonored: 19,930
Dishonored 2: 22,269
Prey: 24,594
Wolfenstein Youngblood: 6,481
I don't buy the idea that their games have somehow been getting less successful or that putting them on big franchise side projects is beneficial. Dishonored 2 was only a flop in the sense that it didn't sell as many physical copies as its predecessor, but even on console I'd wager that difference is down entirely to the difference in how people bought games in 2016-2017 vs 2011.
Uh huh. I picked up both Prey and Dishonoured 2 on 50% off clearance ONE MONTH after both their respective releases. They were pseudo deluxe editions too, D2 came in in a cardboard digipak with a comic and Prey came with a black goo enemy stress ball.