henke on 26/6/2012 at 17:16
that none of the Frenchies in the audience delivered the typical naughty French "ohoho!" laugh, not even when the player transformed into a rat to peek up the serving wench's skirt!
Jason Moyer on 26/6/2012 at 21:24
Quote Posted by Brethren
Not bad. If you can do the stealth thing and explore around a bit and get maybe 20 hours out of the game, that's pretty damn good by today's standards.
Some of my favorite games are under 5 hours long. Some of my least favorite games are over 100. I think people worry too much about game length.
Pemptus on 26/6/2012 at 22:00
Jesus christ, what the hell is wrong with those people cheering?
demagogue on 26/6/2012 at 22:10
Can't help but want to compare it with Dark Mod, but it's definitely faster paced and the movement is way more floaty & swooshy; swordplay looked more like T2's (click-n-slash) than TDM & Mount & Blade's style (swipe in mouse direction) but not sure; the dagger takedowns aren't my cup of tea but it's what the people like... But there were moments when it was genuine sneaking gameplay like what I'd like.
Renault on 26/6/2012 at 22:20
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
Some of my favorite games are under 5 hours long. Some of my least favorite games are over 100. I think people worry too much about game length.
It doesn't need to be Skyrim length, but if I pay $60 for a game, and the main campaign is 4-6 hours, that's just not acceptable for a single player game. There should be a better return for your dollar. The problem is, people say "that's fine" and then every dev starts thinking it's OK, and saves anything beyond that for purchasable DLC.
By comparison, you could finish the Penumbras (some of my all time faves) in 5-10 hours, but they were only $20, so no issues there.
Jason Moyer on 26/6/2012 at 22:37
I'm fine paying $60 for a 4 hour game if those 4 hours are awesome. I'd rather that than 4 hours of awesome coupled with 15 hours of "gotta keep playing until the next part that's awesome" which is basically every 20 hour FPS ever.
Muzman on 27/6/2012 at 01:09
Quote Posted by Pemptus
Jesus christ, what the hell is wrong with those people cheering?
Game convention audiences are the same the world over apparently. That main girl you can hear is probably a cheer leader plant of some sort, I suspect. They did enjoy random un-armed prostitute murder rather a lot though (probably some socialist thing. The bordello girls getting a taste of life as a street walker)
The Alchemist on 27/6/2012 at 01:18
So I was happily re-playing Dark Messiah Of Might And Magic grumbling to myself how fucking HARD the game is on "hardcore" mode (and I remember thinking that the first time too), but also praising it for a lot of things it does for a first person hack slash game that none have done since, and I read "Arkane Studios" and I was like hmm that sounds familiar, I hope they've made other awesome games.
Jason Moyer on 27/6/2012 at 14:20
Quote Posted by The Alchemist
So I was happily re-playing Dark Messiah Of Might And Magic grumbling to myself how fucking HARD the game is on "hardcore" mode (and I remember thinking that the first time too), but also praising it for a lot of things it does for a first person hack slash game that none have done since, and I read "Arkane Studios" and I was like hmm that sounds familiar, I hope they've made other awesome games.
I'm kind of surprised that someone on TTLG wouldn't be familiar with Arkane, what with David working for them and their tendency towards make Looking Glass style games.
Anyway, besides Dark Messiah, they did some work on BioShock 2 (level design, IIRC) and their first game, Arx Fatalis, which is probably the best first person RPG/simulator ever made.
