faetal on 31/10/2012 at 20:19
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
You said that you will never understand annoyance aimed at sequels/reboots. I just described the precise source of that annoyance, which is really quite trivial to understand.
For humans, that is.
ZB speaking for all humans there..
Getting annoyed about something which didn't exist before, which is extrapolating from something which does exist, but not in a way which you enjoy is fruitless. Fair enough if there is a situation where someone who is likely to do a good job with it gets ousted by someone who fucks it up and has IP exclusivity, but it never is, it is just people complaining that any extrapolation has, or will happen. If you think it is all about unsatisfied expectations from people who gave the idea the benefit of the doubt and not about people saying "don't touch that idea because it is sacred", then I question your understanding of humans.
Besides, managing expectations is easy - just ignore it and maybe check it out if it gets lots of good reviews from people whose taste you trust. The only source of loss is from poor management of expectations.
Volitions Advocate on 31/10/2012 at 20:23
fett... I'm not yanking your chain here I promise, I genuinely want to know, and think it's a good topic to explore.
How would you feel if you were asked to direct a new star wars movie. (i ask because you're the most vocal self proclaimed super fan in this thread)
I've seen people talk about how Joss Whedon should be the director.. I don't think that's a good idea. I don't think I could take Summer Glau in a Star Wars flick. But the idea is that a real fan with solid convictions on the canon would be the director. If Disney took this approach and handed it to somebody considered to be "in the know" that fans respect, without micro managing it. How would you feel?
I'd watch it if you directed it. (seriously!)
What about Kevin Smith or Seth McFarlane? Others maybe? ( I still think David Lynch should've accepted the job for ROTJ)
ZylonBane on 31/10/2012 at 20:34
Quote Posted by Brethren
The pod race sequence is phenomenal, a total rush, probably on par with the original speeder bike chase on Endor.
The pod race was unbearable shit, like all sequences centered on Anakin "Yippee" Skywalker. Anyone would be better off going to the source and watching (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3cLSnzN-p0) Wacky Races instead.
Quote Posted by faetal
If you think it is all about unsatisfied expectations from people who gave the idea the benefit of the doubt and not about people saying "don't touch that idea because it is sacred", then I question your understanding of humans.
Go-go-gadget goalposts.
Quote Posted by Volitions Advocate
What about ... Seth McFarlane?
Have you
seen the previews of Star Wars: Detours?
fett on 31/10/2012 at 20:36
Okay - in that we're in agreement. I would love to see something like that, but they've specifically said they'll be working off Lucas' ideas for 7-9 which clearly include the original characters. This seems like a REALLY bad idea to me. Does anyone really want to see that?
faetal on 31/10/2012 at 20:40
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
Go-go-gadget goalposts.
Have you
seen the previews of Star Wars: Detours?
Go go gadget reading comprehension. The reason I don't understand people getting cross with sequels and re-boots is as stated. YOU were the one who ascribed it the lofty goal of being disappointed by falling short of great expectations.
ZylonBane on 31/10/2012 at 20:47
Quote Posted by faetal
The reason I don't understand people getting cross with sequels and re-boots is as stated.
As stated
eventually.
Stitch on 31/10/2012 at 20:56
Quote Posted by fett
Okay - in that we're in agreement. I would love to see something like that, but they've specifically said they'll be working off Lucas' ideas for 7-9 which clearly include the original characters. This seems like a REALLY bad idea to me. Does anyone
really want to see that?
If done right, sure.
What's kind of amusing about this thread is I actually have a skepticism about all this that probably aligns me more with you than my previous posts would indicate, except that I'm at least
open to the possibility of new Star Wars movies that don't suck. Announcing the development of new films in tandem with a massive corporate sale doesn't exactly scream anything other than marketing guys willing vast sums of profit into existence, after all.
But still, I think Disney is aware that releasing bad Star Wars films won't provide the best return on their investment, so they're likely to give the reigns to someone who understands and respects what made the original trilogy work.
And I also want to get drunk in a Mos Eisley-themed Cantina in Disneyland so bad it hurts.
Angel Dust on 31/10/2012 at 20:57
Quote Posted by fett
Can anyone even name a franchise that has more than 3 films that were worth watching?
Bond? Batman? Star Trek? Harry Potter (I'm guessing here - I've only seen 2 of them)? Yeah, it's not the norm but when you've got the material, and the Star Wars universe certainly is that, it's not unheard of. Bond and Batman bounced back after franchise lows to become relevant again so I don't see why the same can't be for Star Wars. It's a big universe, with plenty of other stories to tell and approaches that could be taken.
Admittedly, at this point I'm much more interested in the possibility of Disney putting the LucasArts back catalogue on Good Old Games than I am a new Star Wars film but I'm certainly about any attempts that are going to be made.
Quote Posted by Stitch
Terminator 2
:mad:
Thirith on 31/10/2012 at 21:23
@fett: IMO Knights of the Old Republic shows how you can tell a Star Wars story that pushes many of the same buttons of the OT without rehashing the original characters. KotOR 2 shows how the Star Wars universe can be expanded to be more complex, interesting and mature, without breaking the epic, good-vs-evil appeal that the galaxy can have. Neither of these was perfect, and as games they obviously follow a somewhat different template than films, but I think with good people writing, directing and acting that sort of thing could be pulled off on the big screen.
SubJeff on 31/10/2012 at 22:09
Quote Posted by Stitch
Sequels that were better than the film before it
Gremlins 2
Terminator 2
W
T
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Sequels were just BIGGER.
You can't have watched Terminator 1&2 recently if you think this. And the kid! Oh Gawd!
The prequels were lean, no extra nonsense. Not saying the sequels you mention are bad, and the new Star Wars films may well be good, but you can guarantee some added bs of some sort because that is the done thing and also the thing that spoils.
