EvaUnit02 on 6/3/2009 at 09:05
I just learnt that the new GTX240/250 are just rebadged 55nm 9800GT/9800GTX+ respectively. This is the second time that 8800 G92's have been effectively re-released with minimal design changes under a new name.
Honestly, why are they allowed to get away with these dishonest practices?
bikerdude on 6/3/2009 at 11:58
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Honestly, why are they allowed to get away with these dishonest practices?
Normally when a rename has taken place it has been accompanied by a die shrink and speed increase, 65nm-55nm (8800-9800), but in the case of the GTX250 it has only had a shorter PCB design, supposedly lower power requirments (only require 1x 6-pin connecter....
But yes they are taking the ***ing piss, they have been trying to silence the press and have even barred some wibsite from doing any further reviews of nVidia products... - (
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/465934-inq-nvidia-s-big-dishonesty.html) nVidia's Big Dishonesty
Shodanbot on 6/3/2009 at 13:15
Quote Posted by Bikerdude
Normally when a rename has taken place it has been accompanied by a die shrink and speed increase, 65nm-55nm (8800-9800), but in the case of the GTX250 it has only had a shorter PCB design, supposedly lower power requirments (only require 1x 6-pin connecter....
But yes they are taking the ***ing piss, they have been trying to silence the press and have even barred some wibsite from doing any further reviews of nVidia products... - (
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/465934-inq-nvidia-s-big-dishonesty.html) nVidia's Big Dishonesty
They've done the same thing with laptops(desktop replacements) aswell, im not sure which laptop vendor it is, Toshiba or sony, but they have "renamed" a 512mb 8800m to 512mb 9800m, personally i think they are trying to clear out their old stock, but its a very poor way to go about it...
Duncan on 7/3/2009 at 22:48
I hate it when it comes to video card upgrades these days. Blah. Ok, so should I be going with a 9800GTX? The only other that looks interesting is a GTX285 which is double the price.
*edit*
Oh, and I only have PCI Express and not 2.0. Does that affect anything? It says both are supported, but is there some sort of noticeable performance hit?
bikerdude on 7/3/2009 at 23:22
Quote Posted by Duncan
I hate it when it comes to video card upgrades these days. ?
What have yopu got atm..? and what your system specs...
Duncan on 8/3/2009 at 00:31
Well all I'm really concerned with is if I should go with a 9800GTX instead of going for the GTXxxx range.
But anyway...
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe
Athlon64 X2 5000 (2.6Ghz)
7950GT
4GB Ram
yadda yadda yadda
Oh, and I'm currently running XP64 although I have access to Vista Enterprise if I need it (which I would install when I have a DX10 card).
*edit*
I've never gone with an ATI card before, but this sort of thing makes me consider jumping ship. So with that in mind, how about a Radeon HD 4870?
bikerdude on 8/3/2009 at 09:28
Quote Posted by Duncan
I Have 7950GT.
I've never gone with an ATI card before, but this sort of thing makes me consider jumping ship. So with that in mind, how about a
Radeon HD 4870?
If your gonna go for nVidia then go for the GTX260-(216core)
If your gonna go with ATi then go for the HD4870
The nvidia card has better compatabily with DDfix/Thief
The ATi card is faster in some newer games and a bit cheaper than the GTX260.
Ref:
rename - 55nm - 65nm
GTX240 = 9800GT = 8800GT
GTX250 = 9800GTX = 8800GTX
GTX260 - 1.5x the 8800GT
GTX280 - 2.0x the 8800GTX
The 9800GT has slightly higher clocks and runs cooler than the 8800GT
The 9800GTX has slightly higher clocks and runs cooler than the 8800GTX -
Info - the 8800GTX had 768MB memory on a 512bit bus, compared to the 9800GTX which had 512MB on a 256bit bus, so in some games, the 8800 is as fast/faster....
EvaUnit02 on 8/3/2009 at 10:53
Quote Posted by Bikerdude
rename - 55nm - 65nm
GTX250 = 9800GTX = 8800GTX
Correction:-
GTS250 = 9800GTX = 8800GTS 512MB (G92)
Quote:
The 9800GT has slightly higher clocks and runs cooler than the 8800GT
The clock speeds of stock 8800GT and 9800GT are exactly the same. I've owned both cards.
thefonz on 8/3/2009 at 11:20
Thanks, this is COMPLETELY cleared everything up.
Me? I'm going for a Zotac 9800 GTX just as soon as I get paid next. Oh yes...and a Quad Core Q6600. Muhaha.
Matthew on 9/3/2009 at 10:47
Quote Posted by Duncan
I've never gone with an ATI card before, but this sort of thing makes me consider jumping ship. So with that in mind, how about a
Radeon HD 4870?
I moved from a 7900GT to a Radeon 4870 and I'm very pleased with it so far. Mind you, I don't play Thief and haven't tried SS2 on it yet.
