Venroth on 15/11/2002 at 22:59
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Originally posted by Anarkos I want you to try an experiment for me. Go to the kitchen. Grab a knife. Go outside, apply knife to passerby. Wait. Don't! Forget I said that...but, think, if you did, would many people want to hire you? Not just a thief oir assasin but a crazed serial killer? Only if there are witnesses to the crime and I'm eventually caught and convicted for it, even then everyone in the country wouldn't suddenly have me down as a marked man. There's no hint of the method they use to send information around so quickly and accurately in Vvardenfell. You can't use real world examples and apply them to such high and extreme fantasy as this anyway, virtually everything that happens in the game wouldn't happen in RL.
Forsythe on 15/11/2002 at 23:13
I think Anarkos was simply implying that noone wants to be involved with a crazed killer with a severe case of bloodlust. They're too unpredictable, and thus too dangerous to anyone's cause - even anarchists. The only crew I can think of that'd want to are extreme religious fanatics, and the Temple already has the vast majority of them accounted for in one manner or another.
Heck, even some of Sheogorath's worshippers (specifically, the ones in Ald Daedroth IIRC) are sane in comparison to the logical conclusion of what you're proposing; they only attack individuals who're game for a fight.
Jordana Chal on 16/11/2002 at 00:30
I wrote this a while back for the Daily Vivec, but the editor of said paper seems to have gone AWOL so it's never been published; thought I might as well post it here as it's relevant to what Venroth was talking about.......
AOL PROBLEMS THREATEN VVARDENFELL'S RUMOR MILL
The days of ultra-fast information distribution throughout the province of Morrowind could be numbered, according to recent reports concerning communications giant AOL.
It was revealed to the Daily Vivec that Almalexia Online has been faced with a number of uncomfortable questions relating to its accounting practices over the past two years. The disclosure of these so-called "unconventional business practices" could have serious implications for the company's future.
These disturbing revelations came to light yesterday thanks to the publication of an audit report by the Tribunal Temple's Investigative Business and Accounting Department. I.B.A.P. staff, usually known as "Audinators", made the report available to this newspaper on the orders of Archcanon Saryoni himself, who declared that it was in the public interest for the findings to be revealed.
The most worrying aspect of this affair for most people is the possible effect on AOL's widely-used instant messaging service. Statistics have shown that up to 95% of the local population subscribe to this service, which keeps users informed of recent news and events at an almost supernatural speed.
An outlander adventurer described her consternation upon first encountering this phenomenon."A few weeks after I first arrived here, I spent some time up north in Dagon Fel, looking for adventure and maybe a little profit. I was just going to quietly help myself to a few items, but someone caught me looting a random crate. The guards came rushing over, things got out of hand, and before I knew what was happening I'd slaughtered every person in the village. Anyway, I thought I'd better get out of there quick-smart, so I used my recall spell to teleport instantaneously back to Vivec, on the other side of the island. Imagine my surprise when the first person I spoke to said I was a known criminal."
She continues,"I couldn't work it out at first. It seemed like, as soon as I had done anything of importance, the whole darn island knew about it almost immediately, even people living in remote tribal settlements. After asking around a bit, I finally discovered that they're all constantly logging on to the messaging service and telling each other about the latest gossip as soon as it happens."
Asked for her feelings about the possible demise of instant messaging, our adventurer commented, "Personally, I would welcome it...it would certainly make a life of crime a lot less problematic."
Any outlanders newly arrived in Vvardenfell may be puzzled by the 'invisibility' of this technology. Many outlanders spend a great deal of time poking nosily around people's shops and homes, yet will never have seen anything resembling a modem or a monitor. Archcanon Saryoni explains this apparent contradiction; "In the interests of maintaining the authentic appearance of a Tolkien-esque fantasy world, all visible forms of modern technology have to be suppressed. Therefore, people normally use illusion spells to disguise their computers as random household objects such as books, plants, and tableware. This explains the unreasonable amount of useless, low value clutter lying round most homes."
Almalexia Online have recently appointed a new managing director who they hope will straighten out the company's problems and ultimately preserve the instant messaging service. "Orvas Dren is a prominent member of House Hlaalu, so we know his business ethics are sound," said an AOL spokesman. Despite such reassurances, Mr. Dren will take up his new duties under the watchful eye of the Temple Audinators. "We're watching that scum," growled Audinator #157, somewhat predictably.
-Jordana Chal
Anarkos on 16/11/2002 at 00:35
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Originally posted by Venroth There should have been a whole other set of evil quests for evil people, given by evil people, and not just a few either, I mean an equal amount, so you get as much to do as playing a saint - otherwise you don't have any true choice. The thieves guild and morag tong weren't particularly evil.I was opposing this. My point was simply that there are never that many psychopathic bastards in this world. The reason the "evil" quests don't exist is that, like in real life, most people who're as evil as you suggest are insane loners - very, very scary people a la Hannibal Lecter. The Thieves are roughly equivilent to the mafia; vaguely honourable, but far from moral. What you're asking for is a series of quests for a Hannibal...
I agree, an informatipn-transmission model would rock, but it would be incredibly hard to implement.
Anarkos on 16/11/2002 at 00:37
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Originally posted by Forsythe - even anarchists.:weird:
That's not what my name is referring to, if you're curious. It's a bastardisation of the Greek root word from which "Anarchy" stems, Anarchos, meaning chaos. Chaos suits my playstyle...
Anarkos on 16/11/2002 at 00:41
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Originally posted by Jordana Chal I wrote this a while back for the Daily Vivec...
....somewhat predictably.
-Jordana Chal Brilliance, pure brilliance :laff:
Jordana Chal on 16/11/2002 at 01:57
Hey, thanks! :-) I have ideas for a few more like that one, maybe I'll post them here if the Daily Vivec is still dormant.....
Venroth on 16/11/2002 at 12:06
Heh, Jordana , a career in journalism beckons, I'm certain of it :cheeky:
My main point in this thread is that all RPGs of this type are a good Vs evil battle. I would just like to have a choice as to which team I play for, that's all. Besides which, I would like to hear NPCs grovelling on their knees whimpering..
'Please don't kill me Mr. Venroth Sir, I'll do anything you say..honest I will'
I was the sort of kid who always wanted Sylvester to catch Tweety and kill the little bastard. :grr:
Pestilence on 16/11/2002 at 12:53
Jordana, care to make a newspaper plugin for Morrowind? ;)
Forsythe on 18/11/2002 at 17:48
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Originally posted by Anarkos
:weird:
That's not what my name is referring to, if you're curious. It's a bastardisation of the Greek root word from which "Anarchy" stems, Anarchos, meaning chaos. Chaos suits my playstyle... You're reading faaaar too much into my words, there, Anarkos ;)
