Muzman on 24/7/2009 at 21:03

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All this Puddy-esque enthusiasm is great n' all but I must know a dozen or so people who spent a year going to the gym 3 times a week, really trying to rip it up, maximise their digestive power etc. They drove. They ground. They squeezed. They couldn't raise their arms past horizontal the next day.
End result: stronger fat bastard. With bigger shoulders.
Eventually that initial goal of making your life less of a sisyphean hell is recalled.
Hey, they were probably fitter and less likely to drop dead as a result. But that wasn't quite what they had in mind. All the explanation anyone's got is usually "Yer doin' it wrong", which is probably true. But again that's like saying "You know how you have one tedius job already? Well you actually need another one that takes up most of your spare time and causes you pain, or you're going to look mostly like that forever". Look out, the rock is rolling back.

So, what am I on about exactly? Well I dunno really. Maybe that excercise requires a certain personality and physiology to work. And if you aren't an actor or someone whose 9-5 job is getting in shape, more people than we'd like to admit are going to get no major change from occasional work-outs totalling less than ten hours a week and they're going to need twice that.
I could be terribly wrong about this but it's just an impression. To seriously reduce the apparent fat bastard plague (pretend for a moment that's what this thread is about) I reckon we might have to all actually have two jobs; office 3 days, digging ditches etc the other two. And if you vote for me as Party Secretary I'll make it mandatory right away.

Aja on 24/7/2009 at 21:44

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i do my lifting in the real world

Vasquez on 25/7/2009 at 09:05

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If you're talking perfect, chiseled, flawless Hollywood superhero actor body, you're right. But to lose some weight and gain better health doesn't require that much really, anyone can do it - all it takes is a bit of will-power (I know I know, that's the hardest part ;) ). We're naturally inclined to move around and use our bodies, not to sit on a beanbag all day.

Watch what you eat, stop driving everywhere and bike or walk instead, think up a nice fun exercise routine (and it's *gasp* possible to work out at home instead of a costly gym!) and most importantly try to find ways to exercise you really enjoy. If you choose exercise you don't like doing, just because it's fashionable or because Dwayne Johnsons says it's the only way, you will lose all motivation really quick.

Good thing is, when you exercise long enough, suddenly you realise you can't live without it :)


In a way you're right, turning back the fat-clock would require fundamental changes in the culture of what people eat and how they spend their free time.

Health-wise (except joints) it's not even that important to lose weight, but to have enough exercise and have good quality food. A naturally skinny person who doesn't move a muscle all day and boasts how he can eat 13 chocolate bars in a row will more likely end up with 2-type diabetes than a chubby fellow who eats good but a bit too much, and gets exercise regularly, whether it's biking 4 miles to work and back every day or something more "planned" like gym or swimming.

Queue on 25/7/2009 at 12:51

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*taking notes*

So it's not the Aqua Velva...

D'Juhn Keep on 26/7/2009 at 18:04

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because of course it's a much better idea to gently lower 200kg to the floor and DISLOCATE YOUR SPINE