downwinder on 4/6/2022 at 00:52
from a fan mission player view point i don't think it would be hard to top the om missions with the skills of the fan mission authors,without having to make them anything like om missions,we can all agree that fan missions are better them om,and yes i know without om's we would not have fan missions,i agree,but the fact is the authors can make missions that will never be looked at by a lawyer
i mean not to sound degrading but there is countless fan missions with straight ripped off parts of om missions and after decades i never heard of a law suit :P
remember if the people who say redo/etc a mission if they not making money chances are nothing will happen,they only sue if there is money to be gained
i am from southern California so i know a bit about the sue happy people/etc
Komag on 6/6/2022 at 00:39
I GUARANTEE you guys that you have NOTHING to worry about. GUARANTEE. As nice as the TTLG community is, it is tiny, and the amount of people playing these old school Thief missions is even tinier. I'm talking about compared to the whole big gaming industry of course. Plus even the newest Thief game is already approaching a decade old. You could flat out recreate the entire game using New Dark T2 and you would be safer than Mark McGuire knocking a 90mph fast ball into the next baseball park. No one is coming after you guys, NO ONE. You can relax about this.
Kerrle on 6/6/2022 at 16:51
Plus it's been done; nothing wrong with the idea so much as you're talking inspiration.
The Chalice of Souls is an absolutely excellent fan mission for Thief Gold, and it's clearly based on House of Blossoms from Thief 4.
Ghostly on 19/6/2022 at 14:23
I love to see this contest announced now and will be a wonderful time to see us, the community, come together with it but it left me with a question, we cannot use the Thief 2 Gold mission bases, right?
Because for obvious reasons those assets do not have objectives written, some are only half baked let alone the necromancer type mission only exists in concept pictures only.
takeiteasy on 20/6/2022 at 08:29
lol @ the person worrying about some dmca from a defunct publishing house whose imaginary lawyers demand restitution for unauthorized use of mission objectives. Sort of amusing to imagine a world where the company that currently owns the corpse of the Thief franchise started going after every mission author that has used the character "Garrett." Like Yandros gets served papers ordering them to cease and desist.
Obviously, I'm just poking fun, but I was always surprised things like T2X were legally allowed. That "branding" alone sort of gave the impression it was an official game, and it had a website that kind of suggested that it was. Yes, I know no one makes money off this bla bla and it's a testament to the devs that it was polished enough to seem that way, but that one always raised my eyebrows.
Re this contest, this sort of thing makes me wish I had the talent of mission authors. I'm looking forward to being surprised by what this community comes up with. I really like how this contest will (hopefully) engender a sense of weird dissonance in the player, similar to when you are presented with something you're not sure you experienced earlier or dreamed about years ago.
Have fun.
Renault on 20/6/2022 at 14:18
Quote Posted by Ghostly
I love to see this contest announced now and will be a wonderful time to see us, the community, come together with it but it left me with a question, we cannot use the Thief 2 Gold mission bases, right?
Because for obvious reasons those assets do not have objectives written, some are only half baked let alone the necromancer type mission only exists in concept pictures only.
I haven't done a very good job at explaining the rules for this contest, as evidenced by all the confusion above. But to answer your question, no mission base can be used at all. All missions for this contest must be brand new, original missions.
Galaer on 20/6/2022 at 15:50
Quote Posted by Brethren
I haven't done a very good job at explaining the rules for this contest, as evidenced by all the confusion above. But to answer your question, no mission base can be used at all. All missions for this contest must be brand new, original missions.
Out of curiosity, can participants create new mission inspired by Thief 2 Gold missions despite them never finished and released, just based on documentary like Emil's Journal?
Renault on 20/6/2022 at 15:56
Sure, that works OK. Would love to see it.
Ghostly on 20/6/2022 at 21:08
Quote Posted by Brethren
Sure, that works OK. Would love to see it.
My sincere apologizes I might also have mis-worded myself, I understand it has to be done from scratch, Galaer basically explained my question much better.
Thank you for your reply, this did answer what was lingering in the shadows of this taffers mind. :D
klatremus on 23/6/2022 at 21:00
Any rough estimate for how many entries we might get? I know it's over 3 months away, but I am surprisingly excited for this already.