Dia on 26/5/2006 at 13:30
But Locke committed most of the map to memory, remember? He was making himself absolutely buggy trying to recreate the map he'd seen. Plus, there's still the Pearl, which I thought provided viewing access to more than just the Swan. I could be wrong.
T-Smith on 26/5/2006 at 17:49
Quote Posted by Dia
But Locke committed most of the map to memory, remember? He was making himself absolutely buggy trying to recreate the map he'd seen. Plus, there's still the Pearl, which I thought provided viewing access to more than just the Swan. I could be wrong.
Locke didn't commit too much of the map too memory. He had the rough locations of the stations and some of the topigraphical lines, but everything else (mostly all the notes, the names of the stations) he's forgotten.
As for The Pearl, I'm not sure what it shows. Only one screen was working and that showed The Swan, and in it's orientation video another screen was on, and that too showed The Swan.
DarkViper on 26/5/2006 at 20:50
Not that I know much of anything about electromagnetics, but it seems to me that when the key was turned it reversed polarity [like on a magnet] which would explain why the outer hatch door which Eko seemed interested in for a while sometime earlier went flying towards the beach. The poles were reversed and instead of everything being pulled toward that wall, everything was being pushed outward. Perhaps it was some sort of reaction to a huge electromagnetic force pushing outward that everyone was hearing/feeling, not to mention the color of the sky.
OFC, Charlie acting the way he was acting towards the end was a bit kooky, I'm betting that Locke and Eko are alive and well. But you never know... even if someone dies, their story can still be told through flashbacks from others (such as Libby's... I knew they weren't going to leave her story alone. We'll find out about her stint in the institution in Season 3. I'm sure of it)
T-Smith on 26/5/2006 at 21:02
Interesting theory Viper, makes sense.
I do have to wonder, with such a huge blast of EMP, how's this going to effect the rest of the island? The other hatches? Michael's boat?
Shug on 27/5/2006 at 04:23
There's been a fair shift from "SUPERNATURAL HAPPENINGS" towards "TECHNOSTUFF GOING CRAZY" over the two series. I imagine the whisperings and such are done by the "Others" using stereo gear, but who knows about all the sightings such as Walt dripping wet and so on
The_Raven on 27/5/2006 at 04:36
Quote Posted by DarkViper
Not that I know much of anything about electromagnetics, but it seems to me that when the key was turned it reversed polarity [like on a magnet]...
I'm betting that Locke and Eko are alive and well. But you never know...
Personally, since they were referring to the swan as a dam with a hole in it leaking charge. The "fail safe" was probably a way of draining the reservoir, so as you mentioned the loose door would have been thrown upwards until it was depleted and gravity was once again the primary force bringing it down on the beach.
In regards to Locke and Eko being dead. I can see it going both ways since the role they played in the show was the expose of the hatch and it's purpose. With it gone or useless don't know what function they'll serve but then again charlie is still around. What does that guy do?
BlackCapedManX on 27/5/2006 at 11:56
Four toed statue: Am I the only person who saw this as an obvious reference to human evoultion? Hanso is obsessed with it and there's that idea that as we evolve the use of our pinkies and 'ittle toes will diminish. I figured they would have just made a big statue of a 16 digited figure with a big head, and called it a monument to modern science (maybe all of the others have 8 toes too.)
I'm hoping Locke and Eko (well, mostly Locke) aren't dead. Locke was something of a spiritual leader and it would be lame if he just had a crisis of faith, turned out wrong and keeled over and kicked it. And Eko just likes to make things happen, whether or not they're good. As for the EMP thing, the Swan has got to be gone (at this point along with nearly all of their guns) but I wouldn't give it a long time before they find another hatch.
Does anyone one get huge Riven flashbacks while watching this? All of the weird anachronisms, the very visual natural environment that's been dotted with hightech forts and all of the slightly unexplainable things mixed with the super-science. When the magnet went off I was only thinking "big telescope falling into a hole in the world."
Also: Gale and the numbers. He obviously pushed them, even though he claimed to Locke (after he was exposed) that he didn't and everything was fine. But when the white light went off he looked a bit upset. Shouldn't he have been expecting it? Was he hoping that the magnetic force would obliterate the island? Or do the others actually have nothing to do with Dharma and have no idea what's going on? If that's the case than why did he lie to Locke if he had no reason to (other than as a plot device to get Locke to question his faith)?
And I think the deal with the EMP wall is this: while Dharma was trying to tap into a major source of concentrated electromagnetivity in the earth for what ever reason they made a leak (as Kelvin said). They stopped up the leak with some kind of capacitor which had to be discharged at regular intervals to prevent it from overloading. Rather than turning it into some kind of automated process, or doing whatever it was the white light did to bury the energy leak, they turned into a psychological experiment, but not one at Swan, which actually exists to prevent the end of the world, but at Pearl, which exisits to see how people recording the people who are preventing the end of the world would go about doing such a thing, while thinking that they people saving the world only think they are even though they aren't when in fact they are (fun wasn't it?) Obviously incase bad shit happens there was a failsafe, which was unfortunately, and supposedly, as far as we know, unpleasent, so no one "had the courage to take their finger out of the dam and blow the whole thing up."
And what ever happened to Jack's dad? I missed the raft episodes, so was it ever explained why he was up and walking and left no corpse? Was he just in Jack's mind (and was a body found) or is he still MIA? I ask simply because people keep mentioning ressurections and I was curious if that was still a possibility with Jack's dad or if all of that was de-mythed (especially since Ana had the decency to think of him before she was killed.)
Dia on 27/5/2006 at 14:14
I don't see how Jack's dad could be anything other than dead right now; I mean, he had to have been embalmed before they stuck him in the coffin, right? Unless, (absolutely dreadful thought here) the Others snatched his body for some sort of Vile Experimentation (forgive me, it's early here and I haven't had my caffeine quota yet). I guess I was so upset about the deaths of Boone, Shannon, AnaLucia, and Libby that I think I'm just being maudlinly (is that a word?) hopeful about the possibility of them being resurrected again.
I like Viper & Shug's theories about technofuckups. It sure looked to me like fake Henry was definitely not happy when the Swan did the meltdown thing. I still think that the EM force created a sort of dome which rendered the Island, if not invisible, very hard to see/locate. If that's the case, then one of the Island's major defenses is now gone, a fact that could very well piss fake Henry off. And which seemed to be exactly the incident Desmond's Penelope was waiting/looking for. (OMG; do you think she or her father actually orchestrated Desmond's landing on the Island??)
And which also now begs the question as to whether or not Michael and Walt really do have a chance to escape, unlike Desmond (whom I sincerely hope is still alive), who just kept ending up back at the Island.
(My God! I want someone to hurt Michael so bad I can just taste it!!!)
D'Juhn Keep on 27/5/2006 at 14:19
Yes! You've said! Several times!!
It seems like everyone has been played in some way so that they'd be on the flight. So either that's the work of a vast, Illuminati-style group with incredible resources, or that they've all been mindwiped and brainwashed with what they THINK happened then left on the island or whatever...
Maybe Locke is Xenu?
belboz on 28/5/2006 at 21:38
According to the writters the hatches wont be appearing in season 3, they'll be focusing on other mysteries, like the statue, the dust thing, and that french woman will be back.
