Renzatic on 24/3/2020 at 22:33
Quote Posted by bob_doe_nz
You're the moderator. You do it :p
(Who knows, I might be infected)
But in all seriousness, is it just something that makes server bandwidth bad?
No real reason other than it looks bad. At the very least, I like to keep a tidy board.
jkcerda on 24/3/2020 at 23:11
[video=youtube;8hgpuwaQ6mM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hgpuwaQ6mM[/video]
Renzatic on 25/3/2020 at 00:15
Those are some good special effects.
So hey, I just left my house for the first time in over a week to get some snus. I didn't want to do it, but I also didn't want to be trapped in my house having a nicotine fit.
I brave the wilds with my little drywall mask on, and a half gallon of sanitizer. I made sure not to touch anything more than I needed to, and when I got back in the car, I doused myself and everything I brought with me down in that sanitizer. I stink now, and I feel like a complete idiot. And also a little paranoid.
If anything, I doubt my pride is going to survive this quarantine.
Nicker on 25/3/2020 at 01:09
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Anyway, don't worry, I've got plenty of Lysol to spray you people with.
Good luck with that stuff, Renz. It has LIE right in the name.
lordhern on 25/3/2020 at 02:31
I'm not sure if this has been linked in any of the prior 36 pages (I perused a few at random but not exhaustively) - (
https://coronastats.co/) has a good map overlook with the stats updated frequently.
Stay safe everyone.
demagogue on 25/3/2020 at 02:57
So... If you read this article, a Japanese official seems to be indicating that the virus is rampant in Japan and they are just counting the deaths as pneumonia.
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https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/japans-winning-its-quiet-fight-against-covid-19/)
Quote Posted by Asia Times
Unspoken strategy Still, there are no reports of mass, secret burials. And an official at the ministry – speaking on condition of anonymity – offered Asia Times an unauthorized explanation of Japan’s approach.
“We are in a period where containment is probably not realistic,” the official said. “We need to focus on treating the serious cases and most experts would quietly agree. If everyone is urged to get testing, then medical institutions will overflow with people who do not need to be there. This not only detracts from taking care of more critical cases, it could indirectly result in a greater health crisis.”
While South Korea and other countries have established off-site, drive-thru test stations, that is not the case in Japan. But the official also made clear that hospitals can be dangerous places.
“Please consider that people and patients would also be exposed to higher risks of infection in crowded hospitals and clinics – and secondary infections as well. How does this sound? ‘Come in for a coronavirus test and leave with the flu!’ Unnecessary spending on tests is a waste of government resources, time and fiscals reserves. There is no specific treatment for Covid-19 yet.”
At a time when other countries are in a panicked lockdown, with virtually all economic activity suspended indefinitely, the official went to the crux of what may be Japan’s unspoken strategy.
“Ask yourself, ‘What is the value of wisdom when it brings no benefit to those who are the wiser?’ Most of the infected will recover on their own, thanks to their own immune systems. We need to first take care of those whose immune systems are failing them, or the health care system itself will fail.”
That appears to have kept the medical sector from being overwhelmed.
Pyrian on 25/3/2020 at 04:33
Welp. Sounds like they're going to get hammered.
Renzatic on 25/3/2020 at 04:34
Quote Posted by Nicker
Good luck with that stuff, Renz. It has LIE right in the name.
I've also got this sanitizer that's 63% alcohol. It's up to standards.
Starker on 25/3/2020 at 06:58
The Republican party always seemed a bit like a death cult to me, but I didn't realise that GOP stood for Grand Old Pandemic:
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/older-people-would-rather-die-than-let-covid-19-lockdown-harm-us-economy-texas-official-dan-patrick)
As Donald Trump pushed to re-open the US economy in weeks, rather than months, the lieutenant governor of Texas went on Fox News to argue that he would rather die than see public health measures damage the US economy, and that he believed “lots of grandparents” across the country would agree with him.
“My message: let's get back to work, let's get back to living, let's be smart about it, and those of us who are 70-plus, we'll take care of ourselves,” Lt Gov Dan Patrick, a 69-year-old Republican, told Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Monday night.
“Don't sacrifice the country,” Patrick said. “Don't do that.”
Patrick said he feared that public health restrictions to prevent coronavirus could end American life as he knows it, and that he is willing to risk death to protect the economy for his grandchildren.
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"I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than 3.4% killed, tops, uh, depending on the breaks."
-- Sen. Ron Turgidson
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https://www.salon.com/2020/03/19/johnson-appears-to-suggest-economy-shouldnt-be-shut-down-despite-possibility-of-millions-of-deaths/)
Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., appeared to suggest on Tuesday that he did not believe the American economy should be shut down despite the possibility of millions of deaths from the new coronavirus.
"I'm not denying what a nasty disease COVID-19 can be and how it's obviously devastating to somewhere between 1 and 3.4 percent of the population," Johnson told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel in an article published Wednesday.
He added, "But that means 97 to 99 percent will get through this and develop immunities and will be able to move beyond this. But we don't shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways. It's a risk we accept so we can move about. We don't shut down our economies because tens of thousands of people die from the common flu."
Despite acknowledging that the coronavirus was deadlier than the flu, Johnson argued that "getting coronavirus is not a death sentence except for maybe no more than 3.4 percent of our population, (and) I think probably far less."
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Renzatic on 25/3/2020 at 07:01
It's like they're so desperate to keep from looking bad for the election, they're willing to go to any lengths to save face, up to and including putting millions of Americans at risk.
The economy will repair itself within a year or two. The damage we'll see waiting this thing out in no way represents an existential threat to the United States. We've got a few months of suck ahead of us, but we'll get through it, and we'll recover. There's no reason to panic over this other than for base politics.
Quote Posted by Starker
"But I do say no more than 3.4% killed, tops, uh, depending on the breaks."
Yeah, and if we all just "put on a brave face" and head back to work as usual, we'll likely see the infection rate rise to flu like levels. That measly 2-3.5% will equate to around 2 million directly killed by the virus if it infects 60 million people, and will likely end up being even larger if you include all the indirect casualities that'll occur due to our hospitals being overwhelmed, and left unable to care for its usual traffic.
If it goes all out, and infects that many, you're looking at about twice as many Americans dying than what we lost in WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and the War on Terror combined. When the numbers get big enough, even the fractions are huge.
Also, you won't have 97% recovery rate. It'll be more around 80%. It's not a stretch to assume we'll see 10% of those survivors left with lasting lung damage, leading to them possibly being put on disability, which'll strain our economy even more.
No matter how you cut it, shutting everything down for a couple-three months is not only the more humane option, but also the more cost effective in the long term.
