lowenz on 3/3/2020 at 15:29
Quote Posted by jkcerda
quit fear mongering.
Like islamic terrorism and Islam destroying western civilization?
So yeah, feel free to be a terrorist unless you've got nuclear warheads !
LOL
lowenz on 3/3/2020 at 15:39
You can't control the spreading (and re-spreading, actually some italians are bringing back Coronavirus to China!) of these things. It's impossible no matter the barriers you're using or the economic hole you're accepting.
But you can control the expression as severe cases of pneumonia waiting for the vaccine.
jkcerda on 3/3/2020 at 15:55
Quote Posted by lowenz
Like islamic terrorism and Islam destroying western civilization?
So yeah, feel free to be a terrorist unless you've got nuclear warheads !
LOL
republican talking points, yes I get it and that is just as wrong.
lowenz on 3/3/2020 at 16:53
And I repeat ONE thing: this virus is really a medical staff nemesis, it's infecting doctors and nurses (10% of infected ones are from the medical staff)
This, the intensive care unit high need, the speed of the progression of the direct pneumonia without any particular symptoms (it can kill in 3 days) make SARS2 really scary.
And everyone can be a vector of this poison due to the contagiousness, without any particular "visually evident" symptom (subclinic condition).
jkcerda on 3/3/2020 at 16:57
Quote Posted by lowenz
And I repeat ONE thing:
this virus is really a medical staff nemesis, it's infecting doctors and nurses (10% of infected ones are from the medical staff)
This, the intensive care unit high need, the speed of the progression of the direct pneumonia without any particular symptoms (it can kill in 3 days) make SARS2 really
scary.
And everyone can be a vector of this poison due to the contagiousness, without any particular "visually evident" symptom (subclinic condition).
should be gone by summer I hope.
lowenz on 3/3/2020 at 16:58
Ah, it seems that Coronavirus loves kidney tissues too.
Just reporting.
Starker on 3/3/2020 at 17:13
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
The regular flue has a seasonal element. People tend to get the flue in Autumn and Winter. By the time Spring arrives, the flue wave seems to go away. And pop up again in October or so. Does this apply to the Corona virus as well ? If so, we can expect the spreading to slow down in a month or so. And pop back up in October. We then have 7 months to find a cure, develop a vaccin, or find a way to make the symptoms less deadly.
We just don't know yet. There is some reason to think its spread might slow down significantly, because that's what happens to some of the other similar viruses, but it's not something you can count on. A delay would of course be good, not because we'd have a vaccine ready by then -- that's extremely unlikely -- but because it would give more time to prepare and gather equipment.
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Outside China, the outbreak must be mostly among rich people. Because poor people don't fly to China (for business or for pleasure). What happens when the Corona virus spreads among the poor ? Homeless people ? People living in institutions (for the elderly, for the mentally ill, handicapped, prisons). In the US poor people have less or no health care, are they gonna see a doctor or even admit that they might have the corona virus ?
Well, not if they are going to have to pay thousands of dollars for testing, that's for sure: (
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article240476806.html)
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Personally I don't think this can be contained. Too bad. 2% of the the population is gonna die. Is it 2% ? The Chinese have given unreliable numbers. In Italy, the latest number I can find is: 2036 cases, 52 deaths. That's 2.5%. But not everyone of those (2036 - 52) has recovered yet. So the death-rate might be higher. 3% or maybe 4% even ?
We don't know yet. There's not enough data. For example, it might be that there are a large number of infected who show no symptoms and therefore the survival rate is much higher. And obviously it largely depends on the region -- what kind of care sick people are able to get. Also, the Spanish Flu had initially a far better survival rate first time around, more resembling an ordinary flu, but then came back later as a far more virulent strain.
lowenz on 3/3/2020 at 17:25
Well, for some Bergamo zone towns we're waiting the promotion (.....) to "Red" :/
Time to go STALKER/Metro!
Where's my Geiger Counter and Anomaly Detector?
I'm waiting this since Chernobyl accident! :p