Nicker on 1/8/2024 at 17:14
Respect is earned. When people simply repeat previously refuted arguments, engage in cheap logical fallacies, make false claims or use corrupt data, their right to a respectful ear is forfeit.
Azaran on 1/8/2024 at 18:22
I have seven Covid shots in me. If vaccine issues were widespread, I'd have had something by now
DuatDweller on 1/8/2024 at 19:02
Chestnut? Try Trestoe, err Treskon....
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DuatDweller on 1/8/2024 at 19:06
Try to remember that when having a brain stroke or a heart attack.
It may happen soon.
Even "that" vaccine maker had to accept that there were side effects.
SD on 1/8/2024 at 19:06
Quote Posted by Azaran
I have seven Covid shots in me. If vaccine issues were widespread, I'd have had something by now
Regardless of the merits of the claim being addressed, anecdotes are not a good argument.
I mean, I don't know anyone who got really ill or died from covid, nor do I appear to have contracted it at any point myself. This is not evidence that covid issues weren't serious and widespread, or that the disease isn't contagious.
Qooper on 1/8/2024 at 19:42
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At any rate, I think you're overestimating the amount of patience we should have
I haven't said anything about patience. These are things you can do the very instant someone displays bad behaviour.
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Being nice only takes the conversation so far, at some point after trying the other reasonable options, telling a person to bugger off is the only reasonable one left.
I'm not talking about being nice. Nice and polite are two different things. You can be direct and truthful without attacking. You always have the option to point out the other person's bad behaviour. If they continue their bad behaviour, you can tell them that and show them the exit. An insult is an emotional response, not an argument. It can feel as if an insult makes an argument stronger, like you imbue it with insult power, but it does the opposite, and it's more difficult to take someone seriously who throws insults.
Nicker on 1/8/2024 at 20:16
Not all anecdotes are equal. If a significant number of the TTLG family had come down with adverse reactions, and we all bore witness to it, that would be a credible anecdote. As it was, while most of us received regular vaccines, nobody here has reported side-effects in all that time. Compared to "a bunch of my friends and neighbours told me", out story fits the actual data.
COVID vaccines are four or five or six orders of magnitude more helpful than harmful.
Sulphur on 2/8/2024 at 02:04
Quote Posted by Qooper
I'm not talking about being nice. Nice and polite are two different things.
Well, that clears up what the actual issue is.
And... nah. There's value in a good burn. We've had a long and proud tradition of meeting inanity with zingers, and there's little reason to stop now. The only issue is that SubEff can't make a good one to save his life, which is clearly why that's his name.
DuatDweller on 2/8/2024 at 08:04
Don't worry fellas, I had covid and it wasn't anything of importance it went away like a flu in 5, 7 days.
When I was suicidal, young and reckless I met a woman who later I knew she died of AIDS, and miraculously I got a fever but never got sick of AIDS, three tests says "Negative".
I know is hard to believe it, is hard to believe for me either, but here I am, still kicking.
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