Starker on 14/3/2020 at 00:56
Quote Posted by demagogue
like shutting down all travel to Europe
Well, except countries where he has his golf courses.
Starker on 14/3/2020 at 01:13
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Trump announced that he negotiated with US healthcare insurance that nobody has to pay a deductible for the cost of getting tested for covid-19. What he didn't say is that you can only get tested if your healthcare insurer agrees/authorizes a test. Now it may be that hospitals are denying doing tests because they don't have enough test-kits atm. But it might also be that they'll keep denying tests, just to keep costs down. We'll have to wait and see.
A week ago or so, at the press conference where they boasted about 1.5 million test kits going out to the hospitals, someone asked the US vice president what the plan is for uninsured people. Not only did they end the conference and run out of the room as fast as they could, his press secretary, as a parting remark, chided reporters for putting on a show for the camera. Yeah, not like it's a matter of life and death or anything.
Starker on 14/3/2020 at 01:38
So, I watched (
https://www.c-span.org/video/?470224-1/dr-fauci-warns-congress-coronavirus-outbreak-worse) the Wednesday House hearing on the coronavirus response to get a better idea of what's happening in the US. For the most part it was pretty predictable, with Republicans praising how perfect a job the president is doing and how dare Democrats politicise this and Democrats demanding to know why the US is not South Korea. One thing caught my ear however... To the question on whether the US plans to have large-scale drive through testing like the Koreans are doing, the director of the CDC said there are no plans to have test centres like that because the US is "trying to maintain the relationship between individuals and their healthcare providers." Exactly how many US citizens do have a "relationship with their healthcare provider"? Can someone who's uninsured just call up whoever would be the US equivalent of their family doctor (GP?) and ask for advice or how does that work?
Renzatic on 14/3/2020 at 02:55
I wish we still had drive-ins around here. :(
Gryzemuis on 14/3/2020 at 02:58
Lots of information about covid-19 on Dutch TV tonight. I even learned a few things. Interesting info: we have 1150 beds on Intensive Care Units (ICUs) in the country. We currently have 50 covid-19 patients in those ICUs in the whole country. (FYI, we have 17.5M people in NL).
That means when we have more than 1150 patients that need the ICU, the shit hits the fan.
That is 23x more ICU-patients than what we have today.
We had 804 confirmed infections today. So 50 of those are in ICU.
That means that when we have 23x804 = 18492 infections, we'll have 1150 patients that need ICU.
And our ICUs will be full. (And that's not even counting normal patients).
Note that when we hit 18k infections, that means *only* 1 in a 1000 people are infected.
I think the number of infections doubles every 3 days.
(This might actually go faster. We had our first infection on Feb 27, only 15 days ago. We're at 804 now. That's more like doubling every 1.5 days).
2^5 = 32
32 * 804 = 25k
So basically if the current number of patients doubles 5 times, all ICU beds will be full.
5 * 3 days = 15 days
Conclusion: if the current spreading on covid-19 in NL keeps continuing as it has done over the past month, then roughly at the end of the month all beds in ICUs will be filled with covid-19 patients. In April the shit will hit the fan in NL.
Is anyone of you familiar with these numbers in your country ? (Total number of beds in ICUs, current number of covid-19 patients in ICU, current number of infections, days it takes to double the number of infections, etc). If so, when do you expect your ICUs to be full ?
Renzatic on 14/3/2020 at 03:29
I believe we have around 22,000 ICU beds, but that's not a massive advantage, considering we're host to a much larger population. If the infection rate double like it did just this past week, we'll probably end up in a similar situation around the same time.
Renzatic on 14/3/2020 at 05:10
Quote Posted by icemann
Very few left here. Was quite a few around when I was a kid. 2 left. Quite a different experience to going to a theater.
I don't think we have any around here anymore. The only one we had around here was a few towns south of me that used to show old B-movies for people to watch, playing to the spirit of a bygone age. It shut down about 12 years ago, and I never got the chance to visit it.
Tocky on 14/3/2020 at 05:28
I saw some great horror movies at the Rebel drive in at Oxford. Some great tits too. Some of them on the screen.
On a more related note, Cher cancelled her concert in Memphis this monday. We were going to that. Damn scared ass bitches.
Renzatic on 14/3/2020 at 06:40
Wait. You wanted to go to a Cher concert, and you're calling everyone else a bitch? At least you talked about tits before you said that...
SICK BURN!
But yeah, drive-ins. I'm hoping against all odds that they come back into style at some point. Right now, all I can do is live vicariously through Joe Bob Briggs, watching old reruns of Monstervision.
