lowenz on 20/12/2021 at 13:07
See why antivax people are simply fooled by right politicians with a libertarian ideology crafted just to fool/trick stupid people into believing they're "freedom fighters" and "patriots" ? :D
The harsh reality is the perfect opposite :)
"Liberty is slavery".....YES.
Freedom propaganda is just a travesty. Since EVER representative demo*N*cracy is about manipulating a critical mass of stupid people to get their support through votes.
Cipheron on 20/12/2021 at 19:18
Here's one odd thing about the story.
Someone linked the story, but it was a niche outlet so I was looking for a mainstream article.
duckduckgo search (use term "business insider marjorie taylor green stocks in vaccine companies") brought up a Business Insider link with with this preview: "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Republican from Georgia who has decried "vaccine Nazis" and boasted about not getting vaccinated against COVID-19, reported owning stock in COVID-19 vaccine makers ..." and the link (
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/lawmakers-bought-sold-covid-19-related-stocks-during-pandemic-2021-12)
The date of that article was December 13th. *However* it starts getting weird here. When I opened the business insider article, it doesn't contain the preview sentence. Then putting the preview sentence back into search gave this link. (
https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=33623322) which is clearly the same article as Business Insider, but with a single extra paragraph about Marjorie Taylor Greene just sandwiched in there, which matches the preview for the business insider article.
It *really* looks like someone leaned on Business Insider to remove the reference to Marjorie Taylor Greene having stock in Pfizer, AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson, and by doing so, they manage to bury this story. But we know that the original version had that in it, because it's still in the search engine's cache. It's only been in the last 3 hours (8 days after the Business Insider article went up) that other news outlets have even picked it up. So *someone* pulled strings to try and bury the story, and they managed to keep a lid on it for a while due to that.
lowenz on 20/12/2021 at 22:48
Material for our good @nbohr1more..... :D
David on 22/12/2021 at 08:36
Quote Posted by Cipheron
It *really* looks like someone leaned on Business Insider to remove the reference to Marjorie Taylor Greene having stock in Pfizer, AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson, and by doing so, they manage to bury this story. But we know that the original version had that in it, because it's still in the search engine's cache. It's only been in the last 3 hours (8 days after the Business Insider article went up) that other news outlets have even picked it up. So *someone* pulled strings to try and bury the story, and they managed to keep a lid on it for a while due to that.
That line is present in the Business Insider article ((
https://www.businessinsider.com/lawmakers-bought-sold-covid-19-related-stocks-during-pandemic-2021-12?op=1&r=US&IR=T)) but is not in the Business Insider
Australia version that you linked to.
Cipheron on 22/12/2021 at 08:56
Hmm, that's odd then. I wonder what the reason is. It defaults to the .au article because that's my location. I'll look out for that next time.
Azaran on 23/12/2021 at 03:24
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/uk-government-data-suggests-omicron-variant-milder-than-delta-report/)
The UK Health Security Agency — the equivalent of the US Centers for Disease Control — found that Britons who have fallen ill with the Omicron variant have been less likely to become severely sick than those who caught the Delta strain, the report said.
The findings, expected to be released to the public before Christmas, also show that Omicron is likely to bring on a milder illness with less serious symptoms than those caused by Delta, but the report noted that this may be due to the UK's high rates of vaccination and previous infection.
The government report, however, was said to caution that while Omricon may cause more mild illness, due to its high rate of contagion it may still not be possible to avoid mass hospitalizations that could overwhelm the British health system.
The experts have also found evidence that for those who do become severely ill, there is still a high chance of hospitalization and death, the report said.
A UKHSA spokesperson told the news site that they would not comment on unpublished data.
The report appears to match findings reported by South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases earlier this month.
That data showed that about 30 percent of those hospitalized in South Africa in recent weeks with COVID-19 have been seriously ill, less than half the rate as during the first weeks of previous pandemic waves. At the same time, average hospital stays for COVID-19 have been shorter this time — about 2.8 days compared to eight days.
In total, the NICD said, just 3% of patients hospitalized recently with COVID-19 have died, versus about 20% in the country's earlier outbreaks.Starker on 23/12/2021 at 11:03
Yeah, it's the same problem than with the South African data -- people who have been previously infected typically don't become seriously ill the second time, unless they have some underlying condition, so saying that Omicron causes a milder illness doesn't really mean much in that light.
Azaran on 23/12/2021 at 16:05
Still looks promising though. I know someone who got it a few days ago (double vaxxed), and he said he was already feeling a bit better the next day, though he says his temperature is fluctuating wildly.
The fact that it doesn't trigger anosmia, mostly attacks the upper airways, and is less likely to trigger a violent immune response hopefully means it's not wreaking unseen damage in the nervous system or organs, and thus may not lead to long Covid, but we need to wait and see
Starker on 23/12/2021 at 18:54
Well, yes, it shows that once you have been infected or vaccinated, the immunity it confers is generally good enough to also handle any subsequent infections and that the vaccines do what they are supposed to do -- protect against severe illness and death. We are very fortunate that the vaccines work as well as they do. I remember people talking about how it would be great if we got a vaccine that's even 55% effective in preventing the worst outcomes.
Meanwhile, on alternate Earth...
Quote:
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7wz5a/people-got-sick-at-a-conspiracy-conference-theyre-sure-its-anthrax)
A group of unvaccinated people who attended a huge conspiracy conference in Dallas earlier this month all became sick in the days after the event with symptoms like coughing, shortness of breath, and fever. Instead of blaming the global COVID pandemic, however, the conspiracy theorists think they were attacked with anthrax.
[...]
The anthrax claim was first made by Joe Oltmann on his Conservative Daily podcast earlier this week. In a video recording of the podcast, Oltmann can be seen coughing and sneezing on camera, symptoms often associated with COVID-19 or other illnesses.
[...]
After Oltmann made his initial claim, other conspiracy-minded folk highlighted a video from the event that showed a fog machine operating during the conference, suggesting that this is how the anthrax was spread—ignoring the fact that no anthrax outbreak has been reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention or any other agency.
Clark, the organizer of the ReAwaken event, has dismissed the claims as “rumors.” He told the far-right online talk show host Stew Peters that he is not part of the Illuminati and that the fog machine in question was simply a fog machine.
Still, no one involved in the event has publicly entertained the idea that these illnesses could have been caused by COVID-19.
lowenz on 23/12/2021 at 19:46
Anthrax is deadly with some thousands of spores and you CAN'T survive.
You can't stop progression to death.
These people are so much stupid on multiple levels they're simply cringe.
